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5/8 Cheering, Venting, Big Z & Samardzija?

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Who finishes with better fantasy 5x5 numbers?

Carlos Zambrano
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13%
Jeff Samardzija
21
88%
 
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Re: 5/8 Cheering, Venting, Big Z & Samardzija?

Postby GiantsFan14 » Wed May 09, 2012 12:59 am

That SF/LA game was a manager cripple fight.

Uribe bunting in the 7th, Bochy letting Vogelsong bat to lead off the 8th in a one run game when he was already near 100 pitches, then Ellis bunting in the 8th with Kemp on deck.

Bochy's obsession with letting his starters go too long is getting ridiculous. Allowing Vogelsong to not only come out for the 8th but hit in the top of the inning was indefensibly stupid. I can't imagine there's a worse manager in baseball.
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Re: 5/8 Cheering, Venting, Big Z & Samardzija?

Postby Syfo-Dyas » Wed May 09, 2012 1:47 am

fade2red wrote:The Reds trading him for Edinson Volquez could go down as the most lopsided trade ever.

How about the Cubs who had #1 pick in the 2006 rule 5 draft, and traded their pick (Josh Hamilton) to the Reds for $50000
Thats the most lopsided trade you can dig up in MLB history.
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Re: 5/8 Cheering, Venting, Big Z & Samardzija?

Postby mweir145 » Wed May 09, 2012 2:09 am

And that's what you get for continuing with a terrible reliever as your team's closer, John Farrell.
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Re: 5/8 Cheering, Venting, Big Z & Samardzija?

Postby thatguy27 » Wed May 09, 2012 2:16 am

Syfo-Dyas wrote:
fade2red wrote:The Reds trading him for Edinson Volquez could go down as the most lopsided trade ever.

How about the Cubs who had #1 pick in the 2006 rule 5 draft, and traded their pick (Josh Hamilton) to the Reds for $50000
Thats the most lopsided trade you can dig up in MLB history.


I think the Babe Ruth trade trumps all considering how history played out afterward.
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Re: 5/8 Cheering, Venting, Big Z & Samardzija?

Postby Syfo-Dyas » Wed May 09, 2012 3:37 am

thatguy27 wrote:
Syfo-Dyas wrote:
fade2red wrote:The Reds trading him for Edinson Volquez could go down as the most lopsided trade ever.

How about the Cubs who had #1 pick in the 2006 rule 5 draft, and traded their pick (Josh Hamilton) to the Reds for $50000
Thats the most lopsided trade you can dig up in MLB history.


I think the Babe Ruth trade trumps all considering how history played out afterward.

He was traded for $100.000 in 1919.
Economy cost projects that $100.000 is $19.300.000 today.
Im sure some of the mathguys can calculate their cost/value.
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Re: 5/8 Cheering, Venting, Big Z & Samardzija?

Postby thatguy27 » Wed May 09, 2012 4:53 am

Syfo-Dyas wrote:
thatguy27 wrote:
Syfo-Dyas wrote:How about the Cubs who had #1 pick in the 2006 rule 5 draft, and traded their pick (Josh Hamilton) to the Reds for $50000
Thats the most lopsided trade you can dig up in MLB history.


I think the Babe Ruth trade trumps all considering how history played out afterward.

He was traded for $100.000 in 1919.
Economy cost projects that $100.000 is $19.300.000 today.
Im sure some of the mathguys can calculate their cost/value.


True, it was a ton of money, but if you consider the paths the two franchises took after the trade and the fact that Ruth is widely considered the best baseball player of all time, and certainly the most popular, it was immensely lopsided even given the large sum.
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Re: 5/8 Cheering, Venting, Big Z & Samardzija?

Postby Izenhart » Wed May 09, 2012 4:59 am

thatguy27 wrote:
Syfo-Dyas wrote:
thatguy27 wrote:
I think the Babe Ruth trade trumps all considering how history played out afterward.

He was traded for $100.000 in 1919.
Economy cost projects that $100.000 is $19.300.000 today.
Im sure some of the mathguys can calculate their cost/value.


True, it was a ton of money, but if you consider the paths the two franchises took after the trade and the fact that Ruth is widely considered the best baseball player of all time, and certainly the most popular, it was immensely lopsided even given the large sum.


Ya but back then even with inflation there were no 20 million dollar a year ballplayers. I'd wager the highest payed player in relation to today was making about 2 mil. So 10 seasons of the best player in baseball is what they were paying for just to get him. 20 seasons if you count what they ended up paying Ruth on top of it all. Inflation doesn't give a sense of it's real worth at the time in relation to the game. It would be like someone dropping 150 million overseas to land a big time player in today's game.
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Re: 5/8 Cheering, Venting, Big Z & Samardzija?

Postby thatguy27 » Wed May 09, 2012 5:17 am

Izenhart wrote:
thatguy27 wrote:
Syfo-Dyas wrote:He was traded for $100.000 in 1919.
Economy cost projects that $100.000 is $19.300.000 today.
Im sure some of the mathguys can calculate their cost/value.


True, it was a ton of money, but if you consider the paths the two franchises took after the trade and the fact that Ruth is widely considered the best baseball player of all time, and certainly the most popular, it was immensely lopsided even given the large sum.


Ya but back then even with inflation there were no 20 million dollar a year ballplayers. I'd wager the highest payed player in relation to today was making about 2 mil. So 10 seasons of the best player in baseball is what they were paying for just to get him. 20 seasons if you count what they ended up paying Ruth on top of it all. Inflation doesn't give a sense of it's real worth at the time in relation to the game. It would be like someone dropping 150 million overseas to land a big time player in today's game.


Good points. But if we consider that the $100,000 didn't actually benefit the Red Sox, but was instead used to produce a Broadway musical, it seems pretty damn lopsided. The Red Sox baseball team essentially got nothing. The Red Sox owner got a crappy musical. And the Yankees got arguably the greatest baseball player ever and went on to become perhaps the most successful sports franchise of all time. Perhaps the Yankees would have succeeded without Ruth, but alas we'll never know. All we know is that after the trade, the fate of the two franchises went in vastly different directions. I don't think you can put a price on the success that the Yankees had post-1919 and have enjoyed pretty much ever since.
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