You guys are a bunch of romantics. This thread reads like an ESPN tribute that is a little heavy on the schmaltz. Junior Seau's story reverberates with me more than Rivera's, who still has a choice to make. It's not over yet, so no crying.
I do appreciate Neato's contrarian view, but I do think Rivera gets in on the first ballot. He's a rare modern talent and he added the intimidation to the intimidating Yankees.
MashinSpuds wrote:Junior Seau's story reverberates with me more than Rivera's, who still has a choice to make. It's not over yet, so no crying.
I think that's an inappropriate comparison to make.
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MashinSpuds wrote:Junior Seau's story reverberates with me more than Rivera's, who still has a choice to make. It's not over yet, so no crying.
I think that's an inappropriate comparison to make.
I disagree. If this happened in a different week, I might be joining you guys about Rivera's departure. But Seau overshadows this easily, so Rivera is more of a footnote to the week for me. Maybe I'll be reminiscing about Rivera next year, but not now.
MashinSpuds wrote:Junior Seau's story reverberates with me more than Rivera's, who still has a choice to make. It's not over yet, so no crying.
I think that's an inappropriate comparison to make.
I disagree. If this happened in a different week, I might be joining you guys about Rivera's departure. But Seau overshadows this easily, so Rivera is more of a footnote to the week for me. Maybe I'll be reminiscing about Rivera next year, but not now.
No one said you have to reminisce about Mariano, and no one is comparing this to the Seau tragedy. I didn't realize the two stories were mutually exclusive and we're only allowed to focus on one.
CharlatanSin wrote: I think that's an inappropriate comparison to make.
I disagree. If this happened in a different week, I might be joining you guys about Rivera's departure. But Seau overshadows this easily, so Rivera is more of a footnote to the week for me. Maybe I'll be reminiscing about Rivera next year, but not now.
No one said you have to reminisce about Mariano, and no one is comparing this to the Seau tragedy. I didn't realize the two stories were mutually exclusive and we're only allowed to focus on one.
Neither did I. (shrug) I stated where I stood in my initial post but CharlatinSin's reply seemed to insist on further explanation. You guys can continue to wax nostalgic over Rivera if you wish. It's just overshadowed and the 'woe is sports' chatter here doesn't seem to strike as hard as it could've a week ago in my opinion. Carry on.
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Neato Torpedo wrote:I'm sorry but Mo is definitely not worth it to be the first 100% vote. Best reliever of all time but also a failed starter. First ballot HOF for sure but let's not get carried away.
Michael Jordan didn't make his HS basketball team so he can forget being a first ballot HHOFer right?
Mariano's automatic as a closer and gets in without a doubt on the first try and I hate him and the f'n Yankees. Gotta respect what he's done for years and years and years tho.
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MashinSpuds wrote:I disagree. If this happened in a different week, I might be joining you guys about Rivera's departure. But Seau overshadows this easily, so Rivera is more of a footnote to the week for me. Maybe I'll be reminiscing about Rivera next year, but not now.
No one said you have to reminisce about Mariano, and no one is comparing this to the Seau tragedy. I didn't realize the two stories were mutually exclusive and we're only allowed to focus on one.
Neither did I. (shrug) I stated where I stood in my initial post but CharlatinSin's reply seemed to insist on further explanation. You guys can continue to wax nostalgic over Rivera if you wish. It's just overshadowed and the 'woe is sports' chatter here doesn't seem to strike as hard as it could've a week ago in my opinion. Carry on.
Seau is a suicide story. It has ties to football obviously because that's where he made his living, but it's a story that reaches beyond the confines of sport. Horrible stuff happens in the world every single day. I could just as easily say that the Seau story doesn't really strike me as important when you think of all the military servicemen who have died this week, or all those who have died from hunger or whatever else. Of course Rivera tearing his ACL isn't that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things. But neither are sports in general, so should we never discuss them? That's all I'm saying. I think everyone in here has enough perspective to understand this isn't a life or death situation, but it is sad, especially for people who grew up watching this guy and were hoping to see him end his career on his own terms.
Well, I compared sports to sports, so it's a valid comparison and, again, I'm just stating how I feel. This is a thread where people share their opinions, I shared mine. I'm reserving my sympathies for Seau for now, Rivera for later when he makes an announcement. I did ping on the outpouring of sadness for Rivera, for he hasn't declared he's done as of yet. People are saying the sky is falling when it just looks unstable.
And of course, servicemen win out every day. There is no comparison to them.
This was hard to watch last night. Hate to see it for any athlete. I hope he comes back.. Im not a Yankees fan but no HOF should go down shagging balls during BP.
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