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Trade my Votto for Hamilton?

Postby KaPluie » Fri Apr 27, 2012 12:27 pm

I knows its a bit of a sell low buy high, by selling Votto for Hamilton, but it would also help my roster flexibility a bit. The offer is my Votto for his Josh Hamilton

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12-team league h2h, keep-3 (give up draft pick of round selected)
Batter Scoring: R, HR, RBI, SB, OBP, SLG
Pitching Scoring: W, SV, K, ERA, WHIP, QS

C - Chris Iannetta
1B - Joey Votto
2B - Brandon Phillips
3B - Brett Lawrie
SS - Derek Jeter
OF - Hunter Pence
OF - JD Martinez
OF - Jordan Schafer
Utility - Mark Teixeira
Bench - Mike Aviles
DL - Victor Martinez

SP - Mat Latos
SP - Yu Darvish
RP - Jose Valverde (closer)
RP - Heath Bell (closer)
P - Hector Santiago (closer)
P - Adam Wainwright
P - Jordan Zimmerman
Bench - Matt Garza
Bench - Ubaldo Jimenez
Bench - Jarrod Parker
Bench - Ross Detwiler
DL - Kyle Farnsworth
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Re: Trade my Votto for Hamilton?

Postby MashinSpuds » Fri Apr 27, 2012 12:36 pm

If you are ready to gamble on Hamilton being healthy for the whole year (which he is not known to be) then by all means go for positional flexibility. However, Votto is the stronger piece here. If you could squeeze another player out of the other manager (a low end arm?) that might make it a little more helpful to your cause.
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Re: Trade my Votto for Hamilton?

Postby TruYankeeFan » Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:15 pm

MashinSpuds wrote:If you are ready to gamble on Hamilton being healthy for the whole year (which he is not known to be) then by all means go for positional flexibility. However, Votto is the stronger piece here. If you could squeeze another player out of the other manager (a low end arm?) that might make it a little more helpful to your cause.


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Re: Trade my Votto for Hamilton?

Postby KaPluie » Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:14 pm

MashinSpuds wrote:If you are ready to gamble on Hamilton being healthy for the whole year (which he is not known to be) then by all means go for positional flexibility. However, Votto is the stronger piece here. If you could squeeze another player out of the other manager (a low end arm?) that might make it a little more helpful to your cause.


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Re: Trade my Votto for Hamilton?

Postby hot4tx » Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:25 pm

I'd agree that you're giving up value here with this deal. However Hamilton is definitely a guy that could easily put up the type of elite numbers you expect from a Votto. I might try to work to even out the value a bit (still might end up selling low/buying high but you could make it closer) but if you traded them straight up I can't sit here and say you were wrong. Hamilton is killing it and playing for a contract. Votto looks like he's pressing, which you hope he works through it (I have him in my main league), but it's not a sure thing he gets right soon. He could end up having a bad year (bad for him would still be very good numbers just no where near his caliber) as he presses too hard to earn his new money. It happens.
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Re: Trade my Votto for Hamilton?

Postby Element » Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:28 pm

Hamilton is in a walk season, but I just don't trust him to stay healthy all season. I would not trade Votto for Hamilton unless I am receiving another pretty decent piece.
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Re: Trade my Votto for Hamilton?

Postby MashinSpuds » Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:29 pm

KaPluie wrote:
MashinSpuds wrote:If you are ready to gamble on Hamilton being healthy for the whole year (which he is not known to be) then by all means go for positional flexibility. However, Votto is the stronger piece here. If you could squeeze another player out of the other manager (a low end arm?) that might make it a little more helpful to your cause.


Scherzer?

Scherzer is talented enough as a lower end guy that yeah, I think you could get him with Hamilton if you press the injury history bit.
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Re: Trade my Votto for Hamilton?

Postby KaPluie » Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:32 pm

Another caveat to this deal, is that Hamilton would be a third round keeper for me next year, compared to Votto being a first round keeper.
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Re: Trade my Votto for Hamilton?

Postby Element » Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:33 pm

KaPluie wrote:Another caveat to this deal, is that Hamilton would be a third round keeper for me next year, compared to Votto being a first round keeper.


That's nice. I'd still want another piece.
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Re: Trade my Votto for Hamilton?

Postby hot4tx » Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:34 pm

Oh and to add to mine... I would not trade Votto (who takes up my Util spot since I have Pujols) for Hamilton in my league.

but like I said I can't say that's a terrible trade or anything.


Another caveat to this deal, is that Hamilton would be a third round keeper for me next year, compared to Votto being a first round keeper.

Yeah but if he goes to San Diego or San Fransisco keeping Hambone with a 3 might not be as good as Votto with a 1. Also he's got a lot more useful career ending injury risk, IMO. I don't think that sways me much unless he resigns with the Rangers.
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