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Rank these 3 SP (WHIR)

Postby cordscords » Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:47 pm

-Matt Harrison
-Ross Detwiler
-Phil Humber

Looking to add 1, and see where people rank these 3. Standard 5X5 scoring.
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Re: Rank these 3 SP (WHIR)

Postby benb18a » Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:54 pm

Harrison
Detwiller




Humber



Harrison will accumulate SP1/SP2 win totals on that team, but is a bit weak in the K department. I grabbed him because I have Strassy and Greinke to cover that. If healthy, he is a lock for 15+ wins. Strasburg has the same problem Detwiler does...run support. In other words, check out yesterday, and Detwiler's last start a few days ago. Plus Detwiler also has a K rate pretty well below average for a pitcher with his overall production. Go with the guy on a great team with an epic offense. Either way they're both good pitchers overlooked because of being overshadowed by their offensive juggernaut team/a top 5 teammate.

Humber - I was checking the WW today to see who was dropped in order to pick him up. :-b
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Re: Rank these 3 SP (WHIR)

Postby lane_anasazi2 » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:03 pm

Detwiler
Harrison
Humber

League settings could change this a fair amount, though.
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Re: Rank these 3 SP (WHIR)

Postby saemick » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:13 pm

benb18a wrote:Harrison
Detwiller




Humber



Harrison will accumulate SP1/SP2 win totals on that team, but is a bit weak in the K department. I grabbed him because I have Strassy and Greinke to cover that. If healthy, he is a lock for 15+ wins. Strasburg has the same problem Detwiler does...run support. In other words, check out yesterday, and Detwiler's last start a few days ago. Plus Detwiler also has a K rate pretty well below average for a pitcher with his overall production. Go with the guy on a great team with an epic offense. Either way they're both good pitchers overlooked because of being overshadowed by their offensive juggernaut team/a top 5 teammate.

Humber - I was checking the WW today to see who was dropped in order to pick him up. :-b


this. I think Saturday was Humber's peak. He should be a serviceable SP moving forward, but I like both Harrison & Detwiler better

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Re: Rank these 3 SP (WHIR)

Postby KaPluie » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:26 am

1. Matt Harrison
3. Ross Detwiler (but what happens when Chien Ming-Wang comes back?)
10. Phil Humber
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Re: Rank these 3 SP (WHIR)

Postby Holein1 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:28 am

benb18a wrote:Harrison
Detwiller




Humber



Harrison will accumulate SP1/SP2 win totals on that team, but is a bit weak in the K department. I grabbed him because I have Strassy and Greinke to cover that. If healthy, he is a lock for 15+ wins. Strasburg has the same problem Detwiler does...run support. In other words, check out yesterday, and Detwiler's last start a few days ago. Plus Detwiler also has a K rate pretty well below average for a pitcher with his overall production. Go with the guy on a great team with an epic offense. Either way they're both good pitchers overlooked because of being overshadowed by their offensive juggernaut team/a top 5 teammate.

Humber - I was checking the WW today to see who was dropped in order to pick him up. :-b


This! ;-D

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Re: Rank these 3 SP (WHIR)

Postby OBPlover » Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:30 am

Well I'm' going to get in trouble for this but I'd go:

HUMBER
HARRISON
DETWILER

Harrison will win his share of ball games as his run support is miles better than Humber's. The key here is ballpark factor. The Ballpark is a hitter's paradise and sooner or later Harrison will feel its effects. Humber also had a lower WHIP and ERA, with a slightly better K/9. Therefore you are likely to improve 3 categories at the cost of one. Phil Humber is being dismissed because he had a perfect game and will have to go down from there. But I don't think that's a good enough reason.
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Re: Rank these 3 SP (WHIR)

Postby TruYankeeFan » Mon Apr 23, 2012 8:00 am

cordscords wrote:-Matt Harrison
-Ross Detwiler
-Phil Humber


The history and projections all say you have this in the right order.

But the real question is do you believe in the new Humber...and I am not just talking this weekend. Last year when he came to the white sox (and was back from TJ surgery) they decided to scrap one of his pitches (sorry forget which) for a slider. That slider, has improved dramatically and was the reason he was able to achieve the perfecto this weekend (along with a ridiculously aggressive M's....I thought some hos they had been hooked up to my MLB the Show controller! LOL )

Anyway...Buck Showalter (skip of the O's) said last week after they faced Humber that he looked impressive and that the slider was a real weapon.

So ... yes ... The old Humber is far below the others....but what about the new? Might be worth the gamble that he is closer to the guy with 14.1IP, 16K, 0.63ERA, and 0.63WHIP from this year...or ....228.2IP, 167K, 3.90ERA, 1.24WHIp guy from before the surgery and new pitch?

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Re: Rank these 3 SP (WHIR)

Postby Pogotheostrich » Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:19 am

Matt Harrison
Ross Detwiler
Phil Humber
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Re: Rank these 3 SP (WHIR)

Postby Cypher74 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 10:28 am

I like Harrison, Detwiler, Humber, but don't have a problem taking a shot at Humber over Detwiler.

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