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Am I getting enough for Cabrera?

Postby speeds102 » Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:25 pm

Does this trade help/hurt me more? Thanks for any input. This is an 8 team keeper league.

I give: Miguel Cabrera, Cespedes

I get: Braun, Panda

My team as it stands now:

C: M. Montero
1b: Cabrera
2b: Pedrioa
SS: Andrus
3b: Lawrie
OF: J. Upton, Cespedes, Ethier
Util: Freeman

Bench: Choo, Harper, Trout, DL-Morse
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Re: Am I getting enough for Cabrera?

Postby clarkw267 » Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:48 pm

No way. In a keeper league with Cabrera at 3rd... not even close. I would trade Lawrie before Cabrera.
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Re: Am I getting enough for Cabrera?

Postby speeds102 » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:00 pm

I will try countering for:

I give: Cabrera, Cespedes, andrus

I get: Braun, Panda, Tulo
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Re: Am I getting enough for Cabrera?

Postby lane_anasazi2 » Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:02 pm

I don't know, that first offer seems pretty fair. You're not creating a hole at 3B because you have Lawrie, and Miggy and Braun are both top 5 players while Panda is waaaaaay better than Cespedes.
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Re: Am I getting enough for Cabrera?

Postby KaPluie » Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:07 am

I think its actually pretty close. Who cares where they play ... you are replacing two starters with two starters ... without having to reorganize your lineup. Therefore all you need to do is add what you think their combined stats are going to be, and see which is bigger.

Say Cabrera has a standard Cabrera year and goes 110/35/110/1
What is Cespedes going to do? He's been awesome so far, but I would expect maybe a 70/25/90/20 season from him MAX.

Say Braun has a standard Braun year and goes 105/30/110/25
I'd expect 70/25/90/2 from Sandoval MIN

So I think that for this year, you win this trade because even though the stats are pretty much the same, Panda has much less risk than Cespedes while also having a higher ceiling. However this is a keeper league, so who has more value as a keeper? I'm actually more inclined to go with Panda, keeping in mind that he has more MLB experience and is younger. I'd probably pull the trigger on this trade. The only thing that I don't like going forward is giving up Cabrera as a 3B keeper next year. It would be sweet to keep Cabby, but Braun's pretty great too.
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Re: Am I getting enough for Cabrera?

Postby clarkw267 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 3:49 am

KaPluie wrote:I think its actually pretty close. Who cares where they play ... you are replacing two starters with two starters ... without having to reorganize your lineup. Therefore all you need to do is add what you think their combined stats are going to be, and see which is bigger.

Say Cabrera has a standard Cabrera year and goes 110/35/110/1
What is Cespedes going to do? He's been awesome so far, but I would expect maybe a 70/25/90/20 season from him MAX.

Say Braun has a standard Braun year and goes 105/30/110/25
I'd expect 70/25/90/2 from Sandoval MIN

So I think that for this year, you win this trade because even though the stats are pretty much the same, Panda has much less risk than Cespedes while also having a higher ceiling. However this is a keeper league, so who has more value as a keeper? I'm actually more inclined to go with Panda, keeping in mind that he has more MLB experience and is younger. I'd probably pull the trigger on this trade. The only thing that I don't like going forward is giving up Cabrera as a 3B keeper next year. It would be sweet to keep Cabby, but Braun's pretty great too.


I think Braun will hit for average and steal his share of bases, but are you going to really say that he isn't a risk to regress in power? Also, he went from having Prince Fielder hitting behind him, to having Aramis Ramirez protecting him. I think Braun will be great.. just not as great as he was a year ago.

Cabrera adds 3B eligibility, gets Fielder protecting him, and hits in one of the best lineups in baseball. Prior to Kemp's hot start, there really wasn't too much debate as to who was the #1 pick in this years draft. It would take more than a close to even deal to pry him away from me in a keeper.
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