strasburg for Hamilton

[Bherman13]

I've been offered Strasburg and Jon jay for Hamilton. Standard 5x5 h2h scoring. I'm kind of against the trade, as I don't think the downgrade to Jay will be worth the upgrade to Strasburg. What do you guys think? Should I offer a counter trade?

My team:
C- McCann
1B- Duda
2B- Cano
3B- Freese
SS- Hardy
CI- Seager
MI- Alexi Ramirez
IF- Hannahan
LF- Braun
CF- Hamilton
RF- Sweeney
OF- Boesch
UTIL- Rasmus
Bench- Lucroy, Reynolds, Hafner, Schafer

SP- Lee
SP- CJ Wilson
SP- Jaime Garcia
RP- Perez
RP- Henry Rodriguez
P- Garza
P- Masterson
P- Niese
Bench- Zito, McCarthy


His team:

C- Molina
1B- Cabrera
2B- Kinsler
3B- Chris Davis
SS- Hanley Ramirez
CI- Berkman
MI- Kelly Johnson
IF- Lahair
LF- Lee
CF- Jay
RF- Ichiro
OF- Moreland
UTIL- Gamel
Bench- Figgins, BJ Upton (DL)

SP-Gallardo
SP- Strasburg
SP- Billingsley
RP-Broxton
RP- Lidge
P-Bedard
P- Lewis
P- Vargas
Bench- Bard, Marcum, Wainwright, Anibal Sanchez, Tim Hudson (DL)

[lane_anasazi2]

I know Strasburg is amazing and all, but that's a very lowball offer for Hamilton. Plus, you're in a H2H league. Just when your playoffs roll around, guess who's not going to be pitching because he's hit his innings limit? Strasburg. Every single redraft H2H Strasburg owner is going to try a version of this move over the next few months.

If he wants Hamilton, either Kinsler or Hanley has to be on the table. Conversely, if he wants to sell Strasburg, he's got to aim a lot lower than Hamilton.

[converge241]

its not an insult but if players are close in value (and they roughly are) id rather have the hitter. And I am saying that knowing full well Hamilton gets hurt. He needs to kick back something a little more than Jay to get Hamilton, but again its a "fair" offer just doesnt make much sense for you to take it as is. Your SP is fine and based on rosters Hamilton would do a lot more for him than Stras would for you.

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[Fenris-77]

I'd reject that deal. If he really wants Hamilton he'll be willing to substantially sweeten the pot. Especially now while Hamilton is raking and generally looking fantastic.

[MaudDib]

Agreed. No deal. You can get more for Hamilton.

[Bherman13]

Should I offer him any kind of counter trade to strengthen my weak spots? I think my weakest spots are 1B or one of my other IF spots, (CI, MI, IF). Do you guys think I have enough players to spare (perfectly willing to trade Hamilton) to get Cabrera and maybe a lower tier SP like Billingsley?

[hot4tx]

If that's Mark Reynolds, I'd have him as my 1B/3B guy and play Duda and Freese at 1B/3B/Util based on matchups.

You might try offering Hamilton and Freese for Miggy Cabrera and Vargas (or whoever you think his most droppable player is).

[Bherman13]

I was starting Reynolds, but since his power still hasn't showed up, I've got him riding the bench currently.

[hot4tx]

Okay yeah good deal, he's streaky. I think he's a very underrated fantasy commodity as a 1B/3B power guy this year. I tend to hold on to elite hitters (I tend not to draft any pitchers in the first 4 rounds if I can help it, so that means I don't trade for them at top 4 round value). Even without my bias, though I don't see Strasburg valued as a top 3 round player like most people have Josh.

[Bherman13]

Well I'm considering something along the lines of Hamilton and Reynolds for Cabrera and Strasburg (Or Billingsley, who I've always liked) . I know that seems a little too much from him (IMO anyway) but if he really wants Hamilton, I figure I'd get as much as I could from him. Think its a reasonable offer with enough return value?