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Postby ATLbraves » Wed Apr 11, 2012 3:43 am

Should I trade my Victorino for his Kendrys Morales?

Kendrys qualifies as 1B and OF.

12 team h2h keeper league (7 keepers) 16 cat R HR RBI SB K TB AVG OBP IP W L SV BB K ERA WHIP

My Roster:

C Mike Napoli (Tex - C,1B)
1B Prince Fielder (Det - 1B)
2B Kelly Johnson (Tor - 2B)
3B Alex Rodriguez (NYY - 3B)
SS Jose Reyes (Mia - SS)
OF Mark Trumbo (LAA - 1B,OF)
OF Brandon Belt (SF - 1B,OF)
OF Andrew McCutchen (Pit - OF)
Util David Ortiz (Bos - Util)
SP Brandon Beachy (Atl - SP)
SP Tommy Hanson (Atl - SP)
RP Brian Wilson (SF - RP)
RP Huston Street (SD - RP)
P Trevor Cahill (Ari - SP)
P Chris Sale (CWS - RP)
P Chris Perez (Cle - RP)
BN Jason Kipnis (Cle - 2B)
BN Shane Victorino (Phi - OF)
BN Bryce Harper (Was - OF)NA
BN Yu Darvish (Tex - SP)
BN Johnny Cueto (Cin - SP)



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Re: Victorino for Morales? WHIR ALWAYS

Postby CyboNinja » Wed Apr 11, 2012 7:24 am

It would be a fair trade but I don't see how it makes sense for your team. Victorino (in my exp) always seems to be undervalued. Kendry looks good out the gate but Victorino at least contributes across all your categories. I don't really see how this would be an upgrade for your team. Essentially you're swapping out Victorino for Kendry as your everyday player. By doing that you're gaining a few RBIs and a few HRs at the cost of a few Rs and a few SBs. That is also assuming Kendry stays healthy and keeps this kind of production up.

If it is my team I sit tight until Trumbo gets 3B eligible then I shop him around and see what I can get. Your OF isn't too bad the way it sits. The glaring hole I see is with your closers. You will be lucky if Street and Perez get 50 SVs combined this season. Maybe you can get a tier 1 or 2 Closer for Trumbo and Perez. Personally I like Putz a lot for this season but Mo, Paps, Papa Grande would all be nice upgrades for you. Also see if you can squeeze out a tier 3-5 SP to even out that deal if you decide to give it a shot.

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Re: Victorino for Morales? WHIR ALWAYS

Postby mpieco » Wed Apr 11, 2012 8:02 am

Absolutely not. Victorino is a top 25 fantasy OF. He's got an above average combo of pop and speed, while still putting up a decent batting average. We're talking a possibility of 20-20-.280, and he'll have a good mixture of runs and RBIs as well, as Charlie Manuel usually slides him and down the the batting order.

What is Morales going to do? There are a lot of players on the Angels looking for ABs, and Morales is not going to always get them. I love Morales, but he is not worth a Shane Victorino.
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Re: Victorino for Morales? WHIR ALWAYS

Postby ATLbraves » Wed Apr 11, 2012 1:24 pm

mpieco wrote:What is Morales going to do? There are a lot of players on the Angels looking for ABs, and Morales is not going to always get them. I love Morales, but he is not worth a Shane Victorino.

Morales can hit 30 HR and 100 RBI's when healthy.


I'm getting mixed advice, any more opinions?

Would a trade like Victorino and Perez for Jay Bruce make more sense for me?
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Re: Victorino for Morales? WHIR ALWAYS

Postby mpieco » Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:05 pm

That is a better deal, because Bruce is more likely to perform on a level that equals Victorino's value. Victorino is historically one of the most underrated fantasy players, and I'll never understand why (he's not even in your starting lineup 8-o )

Bruce could hit 30-40 HRs and he might finally get that batting average up to a level that makes him elite. That's something Victorino never will be (elite).

Although, you'd basically be punting SBs at that point. Are you ok with that?
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Re: Victorino for Morales? WHIR ALWAYS

Postby ATLbraves » Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:14 pm

mpieco wrote:That is a better deal, because Bruce is more likely to perform on a level that equals Victorino's value. Victorino is historically one of the most underrated fantasy players, and I'll never understand why (he's not even in your starting lineup 8-o )

Bruce could hit 30-40 HRs and he might finally get that batting average up to a level that makes him elite. That's something Victorino never will be (elite).

Although, you'd basically be punting SBs at that point. Are you ok with that?

Victorino is not in my lineup b/c the Phillies were not playing the day that I copied my roster. He is in my lineup every day when the Phillies are playing.


I dont think I would be completely punting SB's since I will still have Reyes and McCutchen. But it will def hurt losing Victorino.
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Re: Victorino for Morales? WHIR ALWAYS

Postby jefffrizzle2001 » Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:22 pm

I would take Morales over Victorino, the power #'s are much better, and you could use the 1B flexibiilty in case Brandon Belt loses playing time to Aubrey Huff

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Re: Victorino for Morales? WHIR ALWAYS

Postby benb18a » Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:27 pm

I have to say, looking at Philly's offense so far, I like Morales better. He has way more upside, and way more production in his lineup. I think your team is good enough to take this chance ;-D
1B: Freeman 2B: Craig 3B: Beltre SS: Seager C: Lucroy OF: Granderson, Harper, BJ Up UT: Kipnis, Aoki
BN: Howard, Rizzo, Donaldson
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Re: Victorino for Morales? WHIR ALWAYS

Postby joeyg2323 » Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:43 pm

it amazes me the kendry can be put in the OF. Does anyone know the actually last time he played it? lol
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Re: Victorino for Morales? WHIR ALWAYS

Postby ATLbraves » Wed Apr 11, 2012 2:48 pm

joeyg2323 wrote:it amazes me the kendry can be put in the OF. Does anyone know the actually last time he played it? lol

Haha I'm sure it has been awhile.

Do you think I should make this trade though? Or should I try and trade Victorino + Perez for Jay Bruce?
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