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Hellickson vs. Beachy

Postby Saltydog » Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:10 am

Who would you take in a 5x5 roto league?
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Re: Hellickson vs. Beachy

Postby BronXBombers51 » Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:13 am

I like Beachy a lot.
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Re: Hellickson vs. Beachy

Postby Skin Blues » Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:24 am

Beachy by 10 miles. I wouldn't draft Hellickson in a mixed league. One game against the Yankees isn't going to change that.
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Re: Hellickson vs. Beachy

Postby West » Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:37 am

Beachy all week and twice on Tuesday.
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Re: Hellickson vs. Beachy

Postby J35J » Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:16 pm

I'd take Beachy every time but I don't think it's as huge of a gap as what has been mentioned so far. The K rate and pitching in the NL is just something you can't pass up on in this decision.
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Re: Hellickson vs. Beachy

Postby rib217 » Tue Apr 10, 2012 9:34 pm

What is the cause for the semi negativity towards Hellickson? If I remember correctly he came up pretty hyped and then produced a pretty solid line last year while in the AL east. 2.95 ERA and a 1.15 WHIP is pretty excellent. Is it the AL East and the poor K rate last year the drags him down in some eyes?
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Re: Hellickson vs. Beachy

Postby Skin Blues » Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:46 pm

His peripherals have tanked since his 2010 AAA season. K/BB is terrible, can't get strikeouts, plays in AL East. Relying almost entirely on the defense which has never really been sustained by anyone before, at least not nearly to this extent. In short: he had a 4.78 SIERA last season. That's really bad. SIERA the best predictor of future ERA, much moreso than ERA itself.
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Re: Hellickson vs. Beachy

Postby Ender » Tue Apr 10, 2012 10:49 pm

Hellickson is underrated by 'experts' but I still like Beachy more. Hellickson will see his peripherals improve this year but his bottom line will get worse.
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Re: Hellickson vs. Beachy

Postby Norby » Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:52 pm

I'll take the pitcher that can pitch past the 5th inning on a consistent basis.

I'll let you "experts" figure out who that pitcher is. ;)
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Re: Hellickson vs. Beachy

Postby Skin Blues » Wed Apr 11, 2012 12:31 am

Beachy made it to the 6th inning in all but 3 of his starts last year. Not bad for a rookie.

I'll take the pitcher that struck out 57 more batters in 47 less innings. ;-)

Seriously, look at these numbers: 28.6 K%, 7.8 BB% versus 15.1%, 9.3%. It's a pretty wide gap in skill.
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