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Best Fringe 2b FA

Postby 3rice » Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:22 pm

Second base is my weak point....have the options of

Neil Walker , Aaron Hill , Kelly Johnson, Danny E. , Omar Infante or Jose Altuve.

Appreciate all your help guys

-Rory
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Re: Best Fringe 2b FA

Postby Spartans Rule » Mon Apr 09, 2012 10:31 pm

What's your scoring system?

I like Kelly Johnson, particuarly if your league rewards walks in any way.

Neil Walker is probably the safe/boring pick.
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Re: Best Fringe 2b FA

Postby Bherman13 » Mon Apr 09, 2012 11:14 pm

I have a bit of a man crush on Infante. Batting between Reyes and Hanley... He's got speed for SB, will score plenty of runs, see plenty of pitches and has a bit of pop in his bat too (2 HRs today)
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Re: Best Fringe 2b FA

Postby HOOTIE » Tue Apr 10, 2012 12:35 am

Infante had a nice 2 games, but is far below most these 2B.

Walker is hitting 4th.
A Hill in AZ could hit 20+
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Re: Best Fringe 2b FA

Postby Bherman13 » Tue Apr 10, 2012 1:58 am

Neil Walker is hitting fourth for the Pirates. Which, contrary to popular belief, are still a joke of a team. Hill may hit 20 home runs, but he's also going to strike out 100 times and bat under .260. And who's to say he has his power back after only hitting 8 home runs playing his home games in two of the top 10 hitter friendly parks? Infante will have a line around 70-15-60-30 while batting around .290. Check his Sabres. He is the obvious choice.
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Re: Best Fringe 2b FA

Postby HOOTIE » Tue Apr 10, 2012 2:26 am

Bherman13 wrote:Neil Walker is hitting fourth for the Pirates. Which, contrary to popular belief, are still a joke of a team. Hill may hit 20 home runs, but he's also going to strike out 100 times and bat under .260. And who's to say he has his power back after only hitting 8 home runs playing his home games in two of the top 10 hitter friendly parks? Infante will have a line around 70-15-60-30 while batting around .290. Check his Sabres. He is the obvious choice.


So what if they are a joke?
Somebody still has to score and drive in those 650 runs.
Hitting 4th has benefits.

Infante has hit 10 hrs once, had 15 sb once, has never scored 70, or had 60 rbis.
He had a nice start.
He's a .280 8-10 hr, 50 run 50 rbi guy.
ZIPS doesn't even have him that high.

Hill could bust, but he could go 20+ with 70+ rbis.
Walker batting 4th could have 90 rbis.
ZIPS has him 16 hrs 80 runs 90 rbis.
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Re: Best Fringe 2b FA

Postby Bherman13 » Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:12 am

Well, I'd take the guy who has the opportunity to drive in Reyes, while batting in front of Hanley and Giancarlo over Walker, who's only relevant teammate is McCutchen.

Between Hill, Infante and Walker, Infante has the highest wOBA, BB/K, SECA, RPA, and PROD%.

I don't know how much you know about Sabremetrics, but you should look into them before you just take the advice of someone who considers themselves an expert.
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Re: Best Fringe 2b FA

Postby chinch sacs » Tue Apr 10, 2012 3:20 am

3rice wrote:Second base is my weak point....have the options of

Neil Walker , Aaron Hill , Kelly Johnson, Danny E. , Omar Infante or Jose Altuve.

Appreciate all your help guys

-Rory


I like Walker the best.

Hill, Johnson and Espinosa are like the same guy. at the end of the year, look at all the stats without the names and i bet you cant guess which is which.

Infante doesnt even bat 2nd in MIA all of the time so there goes you "between Reyes and Ramirez" arguement.

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Re: Best Fringe 2b FA

Postby HOOTIE » Tue Apr 10, 2012 6:25 am

Bherman13 wrote:Well, I'd take the guy who has the opportunity to drive in Reyes, while batting in front of Hanley and Giancarlo over Walker, who's only relevant teammate is McCutchen.

Between Hill, Infante and Walker, Infante has the highest wOBA, BB/K, SECA, RPA, and PROD%.

I don't know how much you know about Sabremetrics, but you should look into them before you just take the advice of someone who considers themselves an expert.


I'm not taking anyone's advice. I'm basing it on my own observations of the players mentioned.
I mentioned ZIPS, because they do a decent job in projections.

The most important element is the talent of the player.
The place in lineup can get you more abs, runs, rbis, but everything else comes down to the talent of the player.

I don't know where you are getting your info, but here is the career wOBA of the 2B.

Johnson .344
Walker .329
Hill .322
Infante .312

Add in the fact Infante is already 30, and last year was under his norms in OPS and wOBA.

Here is last years value earned in a 12 team 5X5.

Walker $13
Johnson $7
Hill $5
Infante $1

http://www.lastplayerpicked.com/pricegu ... &ms=5&mr=5

Now unless you expect Infante to go crazy at this point in his career, i don't see anyone taking him over Walker, KJ, or Hill.
Walker is 26, so he still is pre-peak.

In the 15 team Cafe Masters, Infante was a free agent until yesterday.
So the 15 of us, found it hard to roster Infante, even in a 15 team deep league.
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