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Postby Tavish » Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:44 pm

CyboNinja wrote:Well, hes a fastball hitter right? Both his HRs were breaking balls.

If the HR he hit off Vargas was a breaking ball I would suggest to Vargas he never throw another breaking ball in his career.
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Postby GiantsFan14 » Sat Apr 07, 2012 12:50 pm

Tavish wrote:
CyboNinja wrote:Well, hes a fastball hitter right? Both his HRs were breaking balls.

If the HR he hit off Vargas was a breaking ball I would suggest to Vargas he never throw another breaking ball in his career.


gameday says it was an 84 MPH cutter. whatever it was, it was an awful pitch.
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Postby Snakes Gould » Sat Apr 07, 2012 1:10 pm

i always love the cow's rational thinking and logical projections. always spot on.
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Re: Yoenis Céspedes is gonna be awesome...

Postby Billhiggins49 » Sat Apr 07, 2012 2:30 pm

The guy is chemically enhanced. What happens midseason when he wears down and there's no HGH to pick him up. No way he makes it through the season without some type of stay on the DL. Watch for the muscle tears, hamstring issues, abdominal strains.
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Re: Yoenis Céspedes is gonna be awesome...

Postby The Cow » Sat Apr 07, 2012 4:27 pm

Merlin401 wrote:
The Cow wrote:I think Stanton is more of Yoenis's floor than his ceiling.


LOL what? A rookie 26 year old has the floor of a 3rd year 22 year old???

Think about that for a moment.


Well if Yoenis had got himself on a raft at an earlier age he would have been in the big leagues earlier. Yoenis has been one of the best players in Cuba for years now. Is Yoenis a true rookie? No. It was not exactly easy for Yoenis to defect to the USA, so his later arrival to the bigs is a moot point.

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Re: Yoenis Céspedes is gonna be awesome...

Postby The Cow » Sat Apr 07, 2012 4:30 pm

Snakes Gould wrote:i always love the cow's rational thinking and logical projections. always spot on.


I see you are still following the flock, baaa, baaaa. Do you ever go out on a limb or are you always picking Shandler's guy?

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Re: Yoenis Céspedes is gonna be awesome...

Postby Skin Blues » Sat Apr 07, 2012 5:16 pm

Use logic and facts to ascertain a value on players; you're a sheep.

Go out on a limb by using three games against one of the worst teams in the league; you're a baseball savant.

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Re: Yoenis Céspedes is gonna be awesome...

Postby CyboNinja » Sat Apr 07, 2012 10:34 pm

Skin Blues wrote:Use logic and facts to ascertain a value on players; you're a sheep.

Go out on a limb by using three games against one of the worst teams in the league; you're a baseball savant.

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Re: Yoenis Céspedes is gonna be awesome...

Postby Ender » Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:00 pm

If your opinion of a player has changed already this season you are doing it wrong.

As for Cespedes' floor, it is something like Chris Davis or Justin Smoak but with maybe 10-15 SB speed added, calling it Mike Stanton is just outright foolish. We don't really know anything at all about this guy. his Ceiling might be pretty high but the floor is very low.
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Re: Yoenis Céspedes is gonna be awesome...

Postby puckwild » Sat Apr 07, 2012 11:13 pm

The Cow wrote:
HOOTIE wrote:Vargas laid one right down the middle.
Cespedes has good power, but chases balls in the dirt, and breaking balls outside a lot.
Just don't throw him any fastballs.
Unless he can show better plate displine, 25-30 hrs probably his area.
To say he will be better then Stanton is crazy imo.



Yoenis's first HR was on a curve ball. So I guess dont throw him fastballs or curves? As for Stanton, I think Stanton is more of Yoenis's floor than his ceiling. Can Yoenis hit .260 with 30 HR like Stanton? Sure. However Yoenis can steal a base, if he would stop hitting balls over the fence we might just see that skill. Stanton not much of a SB threat and Stanton is one of the most over drafted players in the game.

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So I guess he's HOF after 3 games. He could be good, but give it a little time before you call him better than a 35 HR hitter. And Stanton can steal close to 10 bases, which may not sound like much, but is valuable.

I think the pitchers will see how much junk outside of the strike zone he will chase. Lets see how he's doing in June...
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