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Postby 5050 » Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:31 pm

I am in need of a catcher because Jesus Montero may not be eligible until mid-may at the earliest. I also only have 1 closer at the moment even tho Matt Thornton and Broxton are available. Do you think I should trade Beltre and Kimbrel for Napoli, Morales, and Arod? I can maybe get Carl Crawford instead of Morales. I will help in return. Thanks.


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Postby HOOTIE » Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:39 pm

I would cut Lewis and Feliz for Thornton and Broxton.
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Postby 5050 » Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:40 pm

HOOTIE wrote:I would cut Lewis and Feliz for Thornton and Broxton.


Instead of doing that trade youd rather pickup these 2 closers? I'm going to put Howard on the DL so I can keep Feliz or Lewis too
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Postby Seanyfever » Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:42 pm

I like the move for cheap saves.... as I am not crazy about your proposed deal. Kimbrel and a lower end closer will net you just as much for far less risk.
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Re: Beltre and Kimbrel for Napoli, Morlaes and AROD? WHIR!!!

Postby 5050 » Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:44 pm

Seanyfever wrote:I like the move for cheap saves.... as I am not crazy about your proposed deal. Kimbrel and a lower end closer will net you just as much for far less risk.


I appreciate the help. So I should wait for Montero to gain Catcher eligibility?
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Postby SpecialFNK » Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:32 am

I would pick up Broxton and Thornton first. although depending on what the Sox do Thornton might not be the closer, instead it could go to Hector Santiago.

I would still try and get a catcher since Montero could be awhile getting C eligibility. what catchers are on waivers.

one thing you could look into. Kimbrel level closer. you could try and use him to get 2 safe mid level closers. Kimbrel last season had 46 saves, and maybe he gets that again. if you have 2 closers who each only got 25, there's 50 together. just an idea.

I'm not a fan of Volquez at all, so he is another name I would consider dropping. he really hasn't been any good since 2008.

help?
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Postby 5050 » Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:43 am

SpecialFNK wrote:I would pick up Broxton and Thornton first. although depending on what the Sox do Thornton might not be the closer, instead it could go to Hector Santiago.

I would still try and get a catcher since Montero could be awhile getting C eligibility. what catchers are on waivers.

one thing you could look into. Kimbrel level closer. you could try and use him to get 2 safe mid level closers. Kimbrel last season had 46 saves, and maybe he gets that again. if you have 2 closers who each only got 25, there's 50 together. just an idea.

I'm not a fan of Volquez at all, so he is another name I would consider dropping. he really hasn't been any good since 2008.

help?
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Thanks man. Your analysis for sure helps and is much appreciated. Volquez had an okay game tonight and Padres stadium is pitcher friendly. I could use the K's dont you think? Jaime Garcia is available, Henderson ALvarez, Brett Myers as well. Also for catchers, only Suzuki, Doumit, and Yadier are available.
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Re: Beltre and Kimbrel for Napoli, Morlaes and AROD? WHIR!!!

Postby SpecialFNK » Fri Apr 06, 2012 12:50 am

5050 wrote:
SpecialFNK wrote:I would pick up Broxton and Thornton first. although depending on what the Sox do Thornton might not be the closer, instead it could go to Hector Santiago.

I would still try and get a catcher since Montero could be awhile getting C eligibility. what catchers are on waivers.

one thing you could look into. Kimbrel level closer. you could try and use him to get 2 safe mid level closers. Kimbrel last season had 46 saves, and maybe he gets that again. if you have 2 closers who each only got 25, there's 50 together. just an idea.

I'm not a fan of Volquez at all, so he is another name I would consider dropping. he really hasn't been any good since 2008.

help?
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Thanks man. Your analysis for sure helps and is much appreciated. Volquez had an okay game tonight and Padres stadium is pitcher friendly. I could use the K's dont you think? Jaime Garcia is available, Henderson ALvarez, Brett Myers as well. Also for catchers, only Suzuki, Doumit, and Yadier are available.


last I heard Myers is closing in Houston. he is another guy who should be owned.

I think Volquez could have some good K's but hurt elsewhere. he has a problem with walks, as he did tonight.
I like Garcia better for ERA/WHIP and even wins, especially if he can only be used at home. the last 2 years Garcia has been much better at home.

EDIT: I also think Doumit is good. he will be playing every day for the Twins, mostly in RF. I wouldn't want to count on him long term with his injury history, but short term until Montero is C eligible Doumit could be beneficial playing every day.
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Postby HOOTIE » Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:25 am

5050 wrote:
HOOTIE wrote:I would cut Lewis and Feliz for Thornton and Broxton.


Instead of doing that trade youd rather pickup these 2 closers? I'm going to put Howard on the DL so I can keep Feliz or Lewis too


J Garcia over Lewis or Feliz
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Postby 5050 » Fri Apr 06, 2012 1:43 am

SpecialFNK wrote:
5050 wrote:
SpecialFNK wrote:I would pick up Broxton and Thornton first. although depending on what the Sox do Thornton might not be the closer, instead it could go to Hector Santiago.

I would still try and get a catcher since Montero could be awhile getting C eligibility. what catchers are on waivers.

one thing you could look into. Kimbrel level closer. you could try and use him to get 2 safe mid level closers. Kimbrel last season had 46 saves, and maybe he gets that again. if you have 2 closers who each only got 25, there's 50 together. just an idea.

I'm not a fan of Volquez at all, so he is another name I would consider dropping. he really hasn't been any good since 2008.

help?
viewtopic.php?f=26&t=443513


Thanks man. Your analysis for sure helps and is much appreciated. Volquez had an okay game tonight and Padres stadium is pitcher friendly. I could use the K's dont you think? Jaime Garcia is available, Henderson ALvarez, Brett Myers as well. Also for catchers, only Suzuki, Doumit, and Yadier are available.


last I heard Myers is closing in Houston. he is another guy who should be owned.

I think Volquez could have some good K's but hurt elsewhere. he has a problem with walks, as he did tonight.
I like Garcia better for ERA/WHIP and even wins, especially if he can only be used at home. the last 2 years Garcia has been much better at home.

EDIT: I also think Doumit is good. he will be playing every day for the Twins, mostly in RF. I wouldn't want to count on him long term with his injury history, but short term until Montero is C eligible Doumit could be beneficial playing every day.


Thats great analysis. Thank a lot my man.
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