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Good SP Trade? WHIR

Postby sigriffey » Mon Apr 02, 2012 5:51 pm

Should I do this? Mostly interested in how it helps in 2012.

Give: Jon Niese
Get: Chris Sale


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Re: Good SP Trade? WHIR

Postby onitapgr » Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:28 pm

sigriffey wrote:Should I do this? Mostly interested in how it helps in 2012.

Give: Jon Niese
Get: Chris Sale


12 Team H2H Daily with 6 Keepers Season to Season, each for 3 years max. * means a keeper entering this season
Stat Categories: R, 1B, 2B, 3B, HR, RBI, SB, BB, AVG -- IP, CG, W, L, ER, ERA, K, SV, WHIP

MY TEAM

C Alex Avila
1B Prince Fielder*
2B Dustin Pedroia*
3B Miguel Cabrera*
SS Hanley Ramirez*
OF Jacoby Ellsbury*
OF B.J. Upton
OF Alex Gordon
UT David Ortiz
UT Torii Hunter
UT Mike Moustakas

SP Roy Halladay*
SP Cole Hamels
SP Ian Kennedy
RP Jose Valverde
RP Sergio Santos
P Grant Balfour
P Kyle Farnsworth
P Brandon Beachy
BN Henderson Alvarez
BN Jon Niese
BN Colby Lewis
BN Mark Buehrle
BN Drew Pomeranz

Yeah, I like Sale over Niese
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Postby etl1692 » Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:37 pm

Go for it! I like Sale over Niese. Fortunately for me, both are on my FA's. I am about to do the same thing, except in my case Im picking up Sale instead of Niese.

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Re: Good SP Trade? WHIR

Postby suppasonic » Mon Apr 02, 2012 7:08 pm

I'd go for Sale. I have him on a few of my teams as well and think he's a pretty decent shot to outperform his current value.

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Re: Good SP Trade? WHIR

Postby ATLbraves » Mon Apr 02, 2012 7:22 pm

Yes I would definitely make this trade. Chris Sale has tons of upside this year.




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Re: Good SP Trade? WHIR

Postby joeyg2323 » Mon Apr 02, 2012 7:28 pm

easy take! sale is so much better then neise




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Re: Good SP Trade? WHIR

Postby TruYankeeFan » Mon Apr 02, 2012 7:56 pm

Considering this only for 2012...I have to completely disagree!

Sale will be the better pitcher in the long run....and should have a better ERA, K/9 and WHIP this year....

BUT I would be surprised to see him over 150IP.

Meaning either they shut him down for a start here and there...or they limit his IP in every game to 4 or 5 if they really intend for him to make 30 starts. No team will risk blowing up an arm like his by jumping his IP by more than 30 to 50 games depending on player, team and circumstance.

Niese should pitch 180 to 220 IP this year with a 4ish ERA and 7 to 8 k/9

Niese is the play for this year....Sale is the long play.

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Re: Good SP Trade? WHIR

Postby TruYankeeFan » Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:21 pm

One caviat....

If Sales is RP and will keep that designation throughout the year even after he starts...then he would def be worth picking up as you can slot him in as a RP and have an extra SP that day.
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Re: Good SP Trade? WHIR

Postby HOOTIE » Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:26 pm

I like Niese, but that's me.
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Re: Good SP Trade? WHIR

Postby mpieco » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:16 am

Not sure why so many people said Sale. He won't come close to Niese's numbers. By the end of the year, Niese will be the Mets best fantasy pitcher, and more than likely a top 40 option. Sale, THIS YEAR, is not going to wow. He could eventually, but I wouldn't buy into the recent phenomenon of relief pitchers turned starter.
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