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Postby Skinny » Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:21 pm

Got 2 open spots for Closers. Which two should i add..

S.Marshall
Motte
Bentancourt
Broxton
Nathan
C.Perez
Balfour
K. Jansan

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Re: Motte, Marshall, Bentancourt, Broxon or Nathan. WHIR

Postby ATLbraves » Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:23 pm

Any two of Motte, Joe Nathan, and Perez.

Motte and Perez are probably the safest choices. But I believe Motte and Nathan are the best.


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Re: Motte, Marshall, Bentancourt, Broxon or Nathan. WHIR

Postby Fenris-77 » Sun Apr 01, 2012 10:44 pm

Motte for sure. Nathan hasn't looked good, and Perez may miss a little time. Perez should be fine one he gets back though, so he's a fine pick. I might go with Betancourt over him though, but that's about it off that list. The rest of the guys on that list have risk that drops them down a tier or two.
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Re: Motte, Marshall, Bentancourt, Broxon or Nathan. WHIR

Postby HOOTIE » Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:21 am

Betancourt
Motte

Marshall
Broxton

Balfour
Nathan
Perez
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Re: Motte, Marshall, Bentancourt, Broxon or Nathan. WHIR

Postby joeb5132002 » Mon Apr 02, 2012 12:50 am

Motte
Marshall
Betancourt
Broxton
Nathan

Motte seems to be just about the only option to close games in St. Louis. Marshall has all but been anointed the closer in Cincy for what should be a 90 win team. I like Betancourt, but the Rox have a lot of good young options (Rex Brothers). So if he falters they can and will go young. Broxton I don't believe has his fastball control back. Nathan is a good option early, but if Neftali Feliz can't cut in the rotation than he becomes the closer with Nathan moving to a setup role.
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Re: Motte, Marshall, Bentancourt, Broxon or Nathan. WHIR

Postby GiantsFan14 » Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:20 am

HOOTIE wrote:Betancourt
Motte

Marshall
Broxton

Balfour
Nathan
Perez


swap broxton and balfour and i like this.
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Postby SecretAgentMan » Mon Apr 02, 2012 1:27 am

Betancourt, Motte and then take your pick.

I am not as down on Nathan as some here and at least he has the track record prior to the previosu injury.

Broxton and Marshall I think will be OK though you never know. Both could lose their jobs in a hurry if they start out slow.
Perez is OK if healthy.
Do not trust Balfour at all.
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Re: Motte, Marshall, Bentancourt, Broxon or Nathan. WHIR

Postby Syfo-Dyas » Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:04 am

joeb5132002 wrote:Nathan is a good option early, but if Neftali Feliz can't cut in the rotation than he becomes the closer with Nathan moving to a setup role.

Feliz will start on the 10th. Nathan is the closer. Adams is the setup.

Fenris-77 wrote:Nathan hasn't looked good...

When? He looked ok in the second half last year.
And don't pay attention to spring training.

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Spring training 2010: 10.0 IP; 7,20 ERA
Regular Season 2010: 55.1 IP; 2.28 ERA

Spring training 2011: 10.1 IP; 6,97 ERA
Regular Season 2011: 62.0 IP; 2.47 ERA

Spring training 2012: 5.2 IP; 7,94 ERA
Regular Season 2012: 2.0 IP; 0,00 ERA


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Right now Balfour and Nathan have no competition, and should be just fine. Nathan should have 35+ saves, while Balfour projects around 30 saves.
Betancourt pitched well the last 3 seasons and has done nothing to lose the job. 35+ saves
Motte is clearly the closer in STL and pitching well, but I expect less than 35 saves.
Perez had an ERA of 2.65 on Sep 4, than he had 2 bad games. No need to worry. Around 30 saves.
Marshall is good but do not trust Dusty, so thats a concern. # of Saves could be anything between 0 and 40.
Broxton is not good and do not trust Broxton. Only if everyone else is off the wire except Myers.
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Re: Motte, Marshall, Bentancourt, Broxon or Nathan. WHIR

Postby MaudDib » Mon Apr 02, 2012 9:22 am

Motte and Bentancourt are the top two on this list. Marshall, Balfour and Nathan are the next guys with Perez and Broxton bringing up the rear.

Do realize that with closers it is a crap shoot. Roll the dice with Motte and Bentancourt but either one could be out of a job by July. That is the problem with closers, you just don't know what you are going to get. End of the season, Broxton could easily be the best closer of the bunch and just as easily be on the DL by May.
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Re: Motte, Marshall, Bentancourt, Broxon or Nathan. WHIR

Postby HOOTIE » Mon Apr 02, 2012 10:26 am

[quote="Syfo-Dyas]

Information people really need to know:

Right now Balfour and Nathan have no competition, and should be just fine. Nathan should have 35+ saves, while Balfour projects around 30 saves.

Perez had an ERA of 2.65 on Sep 4, than he had 2 bad games. No need to worry. Around 30 saves.[/quote]






Perez K/9 has dropped to below 6, that's not good.
His xFIP was 5.01.
Vinnie Pestano is so much better, Perez is hanging by a rope.

Balfour has Fuentes right there, although he's just as bad.
Fautino De Los Santos has the best stuff in pen, and could take it if Balfour struggles.

Nathan has no competition? Just Mike Adams, one of the top 5 non closers around.
If i was Nathan, i would sleep with one eye open.
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