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Postby Grollub » Tue Mar 11, 2003 10:47 am

My league is 12 Team standard 5X5 roto. I really have insane pitching, but I think my hitting is lacking, suggestions?

C Hall
1B Delgado
2B Bellhorn
3B Rolen
SS Hernandez
OF Manny
OF Wilson
OF Giambi
Util Phelps
Bench Alfonzo

SP Schilling
SP Pedro
SP Hudson
SP Prior
SP Beckett
SP Santana
RP Rivera
RP Foulke
RP Julio
RP Anderson
RP Embree

I really need an upgrade at 2B and OF/Util and I want to trade some of my absurd pitching for it. I was think maybe packaging julio and bellhorn for a quality 2B or julio and one of my OF for a quality OF. Problem is I love Giambi and Wilson, I think both are due for big years. This leaves me very little to trade.
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Postby bengbrewer » Tue Mar 11, 2003 11:10 am

I think you are right on P. Wilson maybe having a big year. But I dont think Giambi will. He might not be playing all the time. I would get a different OF. Maybe trade Hudson for a solid OF like Pat Burell. Then pick up another SP off FA if u can. I think Burell is going to have a huge year. Just an ideal.

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Postby Grollub » Tue Mar 11, 2003 2:52 pm

I keep considering trading Hudson but I feel he is undervalued at this point, I kinda want to let him pitch a little to establish his worth. Also I figure I should target an OF with some speed as my team really lacks sbs. I was thinking maybe dunn and a speedy 2B but I dont have the right package to offer as yet.
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Postby Amnorix » Tue Mar 11, 2003 3:05 pm

Schilling, Pedro, Hudson and Prior. Umm....yeah, that's good....

Your hitting is weak, however, as you noted. Trade one of your big four guys for some serious talent at OF. I'd even be tempted to trade one of Schilling or Pedro, even, for one of the top notch OFs. Or else a very solid OF and a reasonable pitcher. There would be absolutely nothing wrong, for example, with trading Pedro or Schilling for, say, Giles or Ichiro and a guy who can post 12-15 wins (a Schmidt, Miller, Odalis Perez or someone along those lines).

Giambi may or may not have a big year for the Red Sox, but even if he does, you can use the OF to displace Phelps, or Wilson if he doesn't pan out as hoped.

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Postby BigT » Tue Mar 11, 2003 6:33 pm

while pedro is a great pitcher, he's only a few pitches away from a major arm injury. i would trade him for a big producing outfielder. surely there is one team in your league that is hitter heavy

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Postby Sponge » Tue Mar 11, 2003 10:27 pm

How did you get Schilling and Pedro? Just curious...

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Postby Brendo » Tue Mar 11, 2003 10:36 pm

KEEP YOUR PITCHING!!!!!!

it's too soon to start making moves like this.....keep those guys....when you start to run away with every concievable pitching category, guys will want to deal.....and you can surely get a very good 2B with a package of alfonzo and bellhorn......try to make that deal now....there has to be a guy with 2 great 2B's and a crappy 3B, or someone who loves Bellhorn's versatility.....that lineup can easily get you middle of the road stats in ROTO, and that rotation can easily win every category

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Postby Grollub » Wed Mar 12, 2003 5:58 am

I basically agree with Brendo, in that I can't trade my pitchers until people see how dominant they are. I really want to trade Alfonzo plus bellhorn for a 2B but no one in my league seems to value him highly yet. I think he will be great this year batting behind Superman(Bonds). Maybe I will wait until people see how good Alfonzo is, but I guess by then people may see that Bellhorn is a bust(possibly).

I got Pedro and Schilling because Schilling somehow lasted until the 8th pick(first 7:Arod, RJ, Vlad, Bonds, Soriano, Pujols, Jeter hahaha) and the people picking at the end were all afraid of Pedros health. I personally think Ramirez in the late 3rd was a steal as well, but thats just me.
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Postby Ajax » Wed Mar 12, 2003 10:43 am

Obviously, your pitching is great. Even if all of your pitchers only have average seasons, you should win every category...easily. Maybe too easily. The point difference between winning every pitching category and finishing second in every pitching category is only 6 points. I can't know for sure without seeing the other rosters in your league, but I'd say you have a serious chance to finish in last place in two categories (SB's and AVG.). The difference between being last in two categories, and just being average is 12 points. Check the other rosters in your league. Hopefully you'll find somebody that's in the opposite situation of the one you're in that's willing to give up good value at hitting for value at pitching.

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Postby Grollub » Wed Mar 12, 2003 5:28 pm

I was offered Adam Kennedy, Walker and Vasquez for Rolen, Bellhorn and Hudson. I am seriously considering this trade but I really hate kennedy all he really has is avg and he could lose that in a second. Losing Rolen hurts but I can slide Alfonzo right in his place and Larry Walker is pretty damn good. I think vasquez and hudson are pretty equal actually with Hudson likely getting more wins with fewer ks.

I was thinking of maybe countering Alfonzo, Hudson + throw-in(Phelps/Embree) for Walker/Vasquez. You guys think this counter is fair enough.
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