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Longoria for Verlander and Freeman? WHIR

Postby dooho » Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:02 pm

I am in a 12 team 5x5 and feel like i need to add one more SP. i wasn't planning on it being of the caliber of verlander, nor was i planning on trading longoria, but perhaps this this deal is too good to pass up? i would have a pretty dominant staff, but is breaking up a dominant offense not worth it? guess it comes down to how you feel about freeman. what do you think, good trade? or stand pat.
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get: verlander/clippard/freeman
give: longoria/danks/broxton

12 team 5x5

c: mcCann
1b: adrian
2b: zobrist
ss: alexei
3b: longo
mi: y. escobar
ci: prado
of: j. upton
of: stubbs
of: c. young
util: montero
bn: altuve, rios

SP: weaver,d hudson, moore, danks, floyd, sale
RP: valverde, guerra, marshall, broxton, robertson, ogando
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Re: Longoria for Verlander and Freeman? WHIR

Postby Quackman » Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:16 pm

Id do it. Freeman could really be a monster. Hes killing it this spring also. Not sure why the other guy would make this trade. Personally i think people are overpaying a little for Longoria. No way im convinced he will bat over .250. HR's are nice but if he bats .250 and cant steal, he shouldnt be drafted anywhere near the 2nd round. I love Freeman and Verlander gives you a sic pitching staff.

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Re: Longoria for Verlander and Freeman? WHIR

Postby dooho » Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:20 pm

thanks for the feedback. i'd like to think longoria could hit higher than .250, but after owning him for so many years maybe it's false optimism at this point. also, any concern for having prado, mcCann and freeman on the same team?
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Quackman wrote:Id do it. Freeman could really be a monster. Hes killing it this spring also. Not sure why the other guy would make this trade. Personally i think people are overpaying a little for Longoria. No way im convinced he will bat over .250. HR's are nice but if he bats .250 and cant steal, he shouldnt be drafted anywhere near the 2nd round. I love Freeman and Verlander gives you a sic pitching staff.

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Re: Longoria for Verlander and Freeman? WHIR

Postby kvh_1fan » Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:26 pm

I'd do it also. I like Freeman. He gets ignored a lot but is a solid contributor. Verlander would make your staff a ton better.

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Re: Longoria for Verlander and Freeman? WHIR

Postby HOOTIE » Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:54 pm

Longoria has a .274 career average.
His babip last year was .239, career .301.
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Re: Longoria for Verlander and Freeman? WHIR

Postby dooho » Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:57 pm

so you're holding strong with longo?

HOOTIE wrote:Longoria has a .274 career average.
His babip last year was .239, career .301.
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Re: Longoria for Verlander and Freeman? WHIR

Postby Quackman » Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:10 pm

HOOTIE wrote:Longoria has a .274 career average.
His babip last year was .239, career .301.


so. last year he batted .240 something and cant steal. Even if he hits .260-.270 he is still being drafted too high. I bet he doesnt hit .250 and fantasy dreams are crushed yet again.
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Re: Longoria for Verlander and Freeman? WHIR

Postby HOOTIE » Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:13 pm

dooho wrote:so you're holding strong with longo?

HOOTIE wrote:Longoria has a .274 career average.
His babip last year was .239, career .301.

Just pointing out some misconceptions.
Who would you play at 3B?
I think it's more then fair value for Longo.
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Re: Longoria for Verlander and Freeman? WHIR

Postby HOOTIE » Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:15 pm

Quackman wrote:
HOOTIE wrote:Longoria has a .274 career average.
His babip last year was .239, career .301.


so. last year he batted .240 something and cant steal. Even if he hits .260-.270 he is still being drafted too high. I bet he doesnt hit .250 and fantasy dreams are crushed yet again.

I wish i knew you so i could take that bet on .250.
He never hit below .270 before.
BA can vary a lot year to year with babip.
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Re: Longoria for Verlander and Freeman? WHIR

Postby dooho » Fri Mar 30, 2012 3:18 pm

prado moves to 3b, freeman to CI. but since prado was playing anyway effectively it's a freeman for longoria swap numbers wise for my offense.

hootie are you concerned with verlander's lucky numbers last year (.236 BABIP, career .285, xFIP was 3.12) - he'll be good again this year no doubt, but i don't want to pay for and expect those career numbers he had last year. this is a tough decision for me.

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dooho wrote:so you're holding strong with longo?

HOOTIE wrote:Longoria has a .274 career average.
His babip last year was .239, career .301.

Just pointing out some misconceptions.
Who would you play at 3B?
I think it's more then fair value for Longo.
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