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Re: ENOUGH! The Brett lawrie love has gone too far.

Postby Ender » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:54 am

Managers don't like sticking young hitters in the 3-4-5 slots in general, this is not some surprise. Same reason Gamel will start the year hitting 6th or 7th when he really fits in at #2 or #5, though Gamel doesn't have the track record of Lawrie obviously (though it won't surprise me if Gamel puts up a better OPS)
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Re: ENOUGH! The Brett lawrie love has gone too far.

Postby silverZ » Tue Apr 03, 2012 8:59 am

They'll start him off lower in the lineup to keep the pressure off him. He's only had 150 MLB AB, no reason to throw him into the heart of the lineup until he has built up some more confidence. Johnson has a decent OBP and is a LHB so he'll stick in the 2 spot unless he's terrible. It's really hard to predict how the lineup will shake up over the course of the season. There are so many question marks outside the top 3. Lind won't have nearly as much slack as he did last year. If Lind slumps and Rasmus breaks out they could switch spots. Lawrie and EE are also options for hitting cleanup if Lind bombs. As for now that, lineup looks right.
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Re: ENOUGH! The Brett lawrie love has gone too far.

Postby bigh0rt » Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:55 am

The majority of his AB last season came from the 7 hole and he did just fine. I imagine it's just a stop along the way to see how he does out of the gate. Ultimately I imagine he'll settle in possibly 2nd, or one of the 5/6 slots, depending on the L/R matchup.
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Re: ENOUGH! The Brett lawrie love has gone too far.

Postby West » Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:56 am

silverZ wrote:They'll start him off lower in the lineup to keep the pressure off him. He's only had 150 MLB AB, no reason to throw him into the heart of the lineup until he has built up some more confidence. Johnson has a decent OBP and is a LHB so he'll stick in the 2 spot unless he's terrible. It's really hard to predict how the lineup will shake up over the course of the season. There are so many question marks outside the top 3. Lind won't have nearly as much slack as he did last year. If Lind slumps and Rasmus breaks out they could switch spots. Lawrie and EE are also options for hitting cleanup if Lind bombs. As for now that, lineup looks right.


Good points. The 5th-9th part of the lineup is definitely interchangeable. Rasmus has been slumping this spring and could lose time to Davis, who would then hit 9th and bump Lawrie up to 6th. Or any one of the other thousand scenarios could change the makeup of the order. It all comes down to who hits and who slumps and how much Farrell likes to change up his lineup.
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Re: ENOUGH! The Brett lawrie love has gone too far.

Postby k.k. » Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:00 am

West wrote:Rasmus has been slumping this spring and could lose time to Davis

Regardless of Rasmus slumping or not, he will not be losing time to Davis. It would have to be an ugly slide for Rasmus to be sitting. I haven't really heard much negative press about Rasmus' spring either, for that matter.

Sorry, off topic. Back to Lawrie, who the love has not gone too far on. :-D
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Re: ENOUGH! The Brett lawrie love has gone too far.

Postby Ender » Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:41 am

Rasmus hasn't struggled this spring, he just isn't a good player. I think he'll be in a platoon by the all star break to be honest.
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Re: ENOUGH! The Brett lawrie love has gone too far.

Postby ichirosan » Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:44 am

jcook3127 wrote:Not even Joe Torre could bat him 7th...that lineup looks awful


Of course Torre wouldn't bat him 7th... he would sign Scott Podsednik, move Jose Bautista to 3rd, and bench him.
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Re: ENOUGH! The Brett lawrie love has gone too far.

Postby J35J » Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:53 am

Most lineups are so fluid I'm not sure why anyone would worry about where guys are hitting....if they perform they'll be moved up, if they slump they'll be moved down. This is generally the case for all teams outside of proven players and proven lineups.
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Re: ENOUGH! The Brett lawrie love has gone too far.

Postby West » Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:53 am

Ender wrote:Rasmus hasn't struggled this spring, he just isn't a good player. I think he'll be in a platoon by the all star break to be honest.


I can see him struggling again but I also see a lot of upside given his minor league track record and his power potential in a good lineup. He's a wildcard but I think 25-90 is probably just as likely as a mid season platoon. I took him late in a few drafts.
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Re: ENOUGH! The Brett lawrie love has gone too far.

Postby silverZ » Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:15 am

Offtopic but...It's highly unlikely Rasmus won't get his 500+ AB this season. The Jays need to see what they have in him before Gose and Marisnick are ready. Davis is a terrible hitter with no upside who plays average CF defence at best. His only real value lies as a 4th OF and pinch runner.
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