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Postby thesticks23 » Wed Mar 21, 2012 12:54 pm

OK, so i will start with league settings and Auction pricing so you can get a good grasp. I am looking for advice with reason if possible, not just "keep these guys and your good" This is a 12 team league with 2 divisions.

The league is 12 catergories 6x6
Hitting = Ave, BB, HR, R, SB, RBI's
Pitching = ERA, WHIP, K's, Wins, Saves, Quality Starts

We are in a weekly league so you can not change your roster mid-week
Batting we start = 1b, 2b, 3b, SS, C, OF, OF, OF, EH
Pithing we start = SP, SP, SP, RP, RP, P, P

At the Auction Draft each team is given $270 - Keeper value. we have to fill 24 roster spots in the draft.
I am Allowed to keep 5 players, this is my team from last year that got bounced in the 1st round of playoffs to a HOT team. Please help me choose 5 keepers, and i will let you know what i am currently thinking by putting a K next to the players Value. I check this often, and i promise to offer advice in return with reason if you try to help me as well. Thanks

1b - Joey Votto - 37 (k)
1b - Adrian Gonzalez - 28 (k)
of - Shin-Soo Choo - 25
SP - Clayton Kershaw - 23 (k)
2b - Rickie Weeks - 8
SP - Phil Hughes - 14
2b/3b - Martin Prado - 8
3b - Kevin Youkilis - 37
of - Jay Bruce - 25
of - Jacoby Ellsbury - 25 (k)
of - Mike (Giancarlo) Stanton - 22
ss - Alexei Ramirez - 21
sp - Max Scherzer - 16
sp - Jeremy Helickson - 8
rp - John Axford - 6
rp - Jose Valverde - 6
3b - Brett Lawrie - 5 (k)
C - Russell Martin - 5
C - Yadier Molina - 5
sp - Erik Bedard - 5
sp - Mark Buehrle - 5
sp - Derek Holland - 5
rp - Jonny Venters - 5
rp - Jordan Walden - 5

My keeper cost would total $118 and leave me with $152 for the draft.
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Re: Keeper Help, 12team league WHIR.. Draft This Weekend!!

Postby jefferey13 » Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:07 pm

I like your choices, but I would consider dropping votto and taking weeks instead. I think votto is overpriced and weeks is underpriced. Plus you already have a 1b as a keeper and filling your 2B spot could be hard. Kershaw, Ellsbury, Gonzo, and Lawrie are all good deals at those prices.

Also I don't care for your 6x6, I'd switch out AVG and BB for just OBP, and I'd use only Wins or QS.
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Re: Keeper Help, 12team league WHIR.. Draft This Weekend!!

Postby mpieco » Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:09 pm

I have two players I'm questioning, and I'm not saying you have to keep them, but I'm curious as to why you didn't keep a $22 Stanton or a $8 Weeks.

With Gonzalez at that price, do you really need Votto for 9 more when you could have Stanton for 22? I don't know...
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Re: Keeper Help, 12team league WHIR.. Draft This Weekend!!

Postby CadensDad » Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:17 pm

1b - Joey Votto - 37 (k)
1b - Adrian Gonzalez - 28 (k)
2b - Rickie Weeks - 8
of - Jacoby Ellsbury - 25 (k)
3b - Brett Lawrie - 5 (k)

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Re: Keeper Help, 12team league WHIR.. Draft This Weekend!!

Postby thesticks23 » Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:26 pm

so according to Average price payed for these players

Rickie weeks is going for $12 in auctions drafts for yahoo
Stanton is going for $29
Votto is going for $45

with walks in the league as a stat and .Ave i know that Votto bats over 300 and walks alot more then both those players which was why i choose him.
Currently Stanton hasnt hit over 265 and he does not walk, he has a ton of potential but not proven talent so i was a little afraid to take the flier on him.
Weeks is injured quite a bit and i would only be saving $4 dollars

As for the person that suggested i not take kershaw... ?? why would i not take the Cy Young winner for $23? His average price in drafts is $36, do you think he is going to regress badly? is there something i dont know going on with him?
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Re: Keeper Help, 12team league WHIR.. Draft This Weekend!!

Postby mpieco » Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:30 pm

It is definitely a difficult decision, you're right. It seems you put a lot of thought into it. For me it's either a $22 Stanton or a $37 Votto. If you'll pay the extra 15 for the AVG and walks, then go for it. I see nothing wrong with that. Just wanted to make sure you really gave Stanton a chance.

The five you chose are probably the best options then.
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Re: Keeper Help, 12team league WHIR.. Draft This Weekend!!

Postby thesticks23 » Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:41 pm

I feel good about the options i choose, but i want to make sure that my thinking is proper, as im tired of losing in the playoffs.. I have placed 2 in the league standings 2 years in a row, and then lost first round of playoffs both years. I want this year to be my year, and next year votto will be 41 and i will have to drop him at that price and gonz will go up to 32 and kershaw will be 27.. so my players get more expensive the longer i keep them, i just want to make sure that i am using the correct logic.
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Re: Keeper Help, 12team league WHIR.. Draft This Weekend!!

Postby jefferey13 » Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:12 pm

Votto is going for $33 overall average on ESPN. How the heck does it get to $45 on Yahoo? Huge difference, even if Yahoo's avg is only for 12 man and ESPN is for all draft types.

I still don't think you should keep votto, but if you're confident in your league he should get around $45, then just sell him to someone else to keep. Easy money.

Also, not keeping Kershaw is crazy.
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Re: Keeper Help, 12team league WHIR.. Draft This Weekend!!

Postby HOOTIE » Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:18 pm

You got the right 5.
Votto and AGon gain value with BB.
Stanton only helps in 3 of the 6 catergories.
Weeks gets hurt too much to take over anybody.
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Re: Keeper Help, 12team league WHIR.. Draft This Weekend!!

Postby thesticks23 » Wed Mar 21, 2012 2:31 pm

Does ESPN leagues give you 270 with 24 roster spots? thats makes up the values right there..

what % of your money does the player cost.
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