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Postby Izenhart » Fri Aug 31, 2012 4:37 am

benb18a wrote:Since they've wrapped up a playoff spot barring the largest collapse in MLB history, I have an idea. How about they pitch him once a week, since there are four weeks of the season left, and limit his innings to 5 per outing, or 80 pitches, whichever comes first. Then they could pitch him in one game per postseason series, making his IP for the year under 180. It would represent the best of both worlds, and gives them a real good shot at winning the title while not working Strasburg at a full throttle year even including the postseason. Is this even possible? Do pitchers usually do poorly with starts spaced out like that?


Pitchers are creatures of habit, and a lot of the time and extra day or two of rest doesn't help. I think they are better off just letting him go 5-6 innings every 5 days, keeping him under 100 pitches per start and then keeping his arm fresh with 30 pitch bullpen sessions every 5 days, maybe throwing a little live BP. I can see them maybe using him out of the pen for 2 innings or so 3-4 days before the playoffs to keep him sharp and focused.
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Postby lastingsgriller » Sat Sep 01, 2012 1:06 pm

Effing with a pitchers rhythm is a sure fire way to get blow up starts. Sucks, but it's the truth.
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Re: stephen strasburg

Postby SpecialFNK » Mon Sep 03, 2012 9:37 pm

Nationals GM Mike Rizzo confirmed Stephen Strasburg will make two more starts before being shutdown.
Strasburg picked up a no-decision against the Cardinals on Sunday, and is now at 156-plus innings. If the Nationals stick to their current plan, Strasburg will finish among the league leaders in strikeouts, and look to improve on his 15-6 record and 2.94 ERA in his next two appearances. He remains a contender for the National League Cy Young despite his season being suspended.

looks like the Nationals will shut him down soon. almost guaranteed to make the playoffs, not a bad idea.
I don't think I've seen this mentioned anywhere, but does this for sure include the playoffs? they don't need him NOW, but having him in the playoffs sure would be a big plus. hypothetically the Nations go on to win the World Series, roughly how many extra IP would he have in the playoffs? still 3 rounds yes? 2 starts per round? 7 IP a start? 32 extra IP? or use him as the 3rd/4th SP in the rotation limiting him to just 1 start per round, 21 extra IP?
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Re: stephen strasburg

Postby Izenhart » Mon Sep 03, 2012 10:07 pm

SpecialFNK wrote:
Nationals GM Mike Rizzo confirmed Stephen Strasburg will make two more starts before being shutdown.
Strasburg picked up a no-decision against the Cardinals on Sunday, and is now at 156-plus innings. If the Nationals stick to their current plan, Strasburg will finish among the league leaders in strikeouts, and look to improve on his 15-6 record and 2.94 ERA in his next two appearances. He remains a contender for the National League Cy Young despite his season being suspended.

looks like the Nationals will shut him down soon. almost guaranteed to make the playoffs, not a bad idea.
I don't think I've seen this mentioned anywhere, but does this for sure include the playoffs? they don't need him NOW, but having him in the playoffs sure would be a big plus. hypothetically the Nations go on to win the World Series, roughly how many extra IP would he have in the playoffs? still 3 rounds yes? 2 starts per round? 7 IP a start? 32 extra IP? or use him as the 3rd/4th SP in the rotation limiting him to just 1 start per round, 21 extra IP?


Why waste all his innings in the regular season if they are going to the playoffs? I'm pretty sure they will let him pitch in October. If not, wtf?
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Postby GiantsFan14 » Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:45 am

because it's probably not a good idea to shut him down for a month and then ask him to rev it back up and pitch in the playoffs. it's not just the extra innings, it's him not pitching for a month and then all the sudden throwing him back into games. if anything i think that'd be worse than just letting him keep pitching.
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Postby benb18a » Tue Sep 04, 2012 2:06 am

Can't he pitch "simulated games" once a week? Keep him in baseball shape for the next month and then pitch him in a divisional round game? It just seems like such a monumental waste for by far the team's best player on a pennant contender, based on a cloudy theory that may not even have any bearing considering mixed results of pitchers like Wainwright recovering from TJ surgery.
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Postby GiantsFan14 » Tue Sep 04, 2012 2:16 am

if they were to do that they might as well just let him pitch in real games. for as much flak as the nationals are getting/will get for this decision, i think it's the right play.

he's a 24 year old who threw ~120 innings two years ago, ~45 innings last year, and now they're letting him get up to 180 innings a year after he had tommy john surgery. that kind of inning jump for any pitcher would be a huge red flag, for a guy who just had tommy john i think being cautious is the way to go.
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Re: stephen strasburg

Postby Izenhart » Tue Sep 04, 2012 6:46 am

GiantsFan14 wrote:if they were to do that they might as well just let him pitch in real games. for as much flak as the nationals are getting/will get for this decision, i think it's the right play.

he's a 24 year old who threw ~120 innings two years ago, ~45 innings last year, and now they're letting him get up to 180 innings a year after he had tommy john surgery. that kind of inning jump for any pitcher would be a huge red flag, for a guy who just had tommy john i think being cautious is the way to go.


I think they should have had him skip spring training and had him in the minors for April to stretch out his arm then. The whole point of playing the regular season is to get to the playoffs.
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Re: stephen strasburg

Postby Skin Blues » Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:48 am

Yeh they screwed up pretty bad. First it's ridiculous to think that shutting him down will do anything to save his arm, and second, if they intended on doing this the whole time then he shouldn't have been pitching until May. But this has all been said a thousand times... it's like arguing about religion or politics.
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Postby lastingsgriller » Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:16 pm

Hindsight is a pretty bad basis for an argument. They had no idea that he would be THIS effective coming off TJ surgery, nor did they know that they would be the best team in the NL at this point. If they knew those things, I'm sure he wouldn't have pitched in April/May. But, of course, who's to say that they would be in the position they are in now if he hadn't pitched the whole season.
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