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Postby Sakuraba » Wed Mar 21, 2012 6:34 am

What happens if the Nationals have the best record in baseball when he reaches his 160 innings
Will they still shut him and give up a chance at winning a championship?
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Postby lastingsgriller » Wed Mar 21, 2012 8:08 am

It'll be a game time decision. If they are that good he will probably start skipping starts at about 100 innings to extend the life of his 160.
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Postby Ender » Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:05 am

Sakuraba wrote:What happens if the Nationals have the best record in baseball when he reaches his 160 innings
Will they still shut him and give up a chance at winning a championship?



They won't be a playoff team when he hits 160 IP, that team has too many holes in it. He isn't likely to pitch past 160 innings anyway though, his mechanics are so terrible that he is just too huge of an injury risk.
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Postby Skin Blues » Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:11 am

Well shucks, I didn't know we had a pitching mechanics wizard amongst us! Tell us who the next one to make that dreaded visit to James Andrews will be, oh wise one.
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Postby Ender » Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:13 am

Skin Blues wrote:Well shucks, I didn't know we had a pitching mechanics wizard amongst us! Tell us who the next one to make that dreaded visit to James Andrews will be, oh wise one.


Tommy Hanson, though not because of his mechanics.

If you don't know Strasburg has bad mechanics though you just haven't been paying attention. It has been beat to death at this point and after the injury he didn't change them so it is going to remain a problem.
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Postby Skin Blues » Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:27 am

ESPN beat it to death so it must be true. "Inverted W". So silly. Everybody's an expert on things after they happen. How could we not have seen it coming, right?

And good call by predicting a guy whose arm almost fell off last year might have arm problems.
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Postby Ender » Wed Mar 21, 2012 9:40 am

An inverted W isn't inherently a problem, when it is caused by bad timing and balance it becomes a huge problem. ESPN latched onto the story months after many pitching experts said it was a red flag.

This is probably the best article that looks at...

http://www.chrisoleary.com/projects/Pit ... sburg.html

This is just not the type of pitcher you want to push to go extra innings when your franchise depends on it. Get your 160 innings in, get him comfortable again and then work on fixing his mechanics in the off season.

And good call by predicting a guy whose arm almost fell off last year might have arm problems.


It was wrong anyway, the answer was Zach Britton who is going today.
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Postby cordscords » Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:39 pm

Gotta give this a bump because I think this topic has some merit.

The Nats are a popular pick to make the playoffs this season, and for good reason. If the Nats are in the hunt come September 1st I think the innings cap gets scrapped, and the Nats treat him with kid gloves down the stretch. No pitch counts over 90, use the curve a little bit less, etc.

185 IP wouldn't surprise me at all.
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Postby HOOTIE » Sun Apr 01, 2012 12:09 am

The Nats won't really be in it. Probably a 83 win team.
They just don't have a very good offense.
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Postby cordscords » Sun Apr 01, 2012 12:58 am

HOOTIE wrote:The Nats won't really be in it. Probably a 83 win team.
They just don't have a very good offense.


They won 80 games last season with a lot of issues, and now there is an extra playoff spot. They will have Strasburg for a full season, Zimmerman without an innings cap, and added GG to the rotation. I see Werth having a moderate bounce back, Zimmerman playing in more than 100 games, Adam LaRoche returning from injury, and Ramos is no longer blocked by Pudge. Desmond and Espinosa still have room for some slight growth as well.

I think worst case scenario they are 3 games behind the 5th wildcard spot come the start of September. I'm not folding if that's the case.
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