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Postby CGHitman14 » Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:08 pm

H2H points league.

I originally posted this thread about who to keep out of the 6 potential keepers I had (only keep 4)

viewtopic.php?f=26&t=438900

Right now I have Pujols, Upton, Lincecum, Hanley and Wainwright. I traded Felix straight up for Justin Upton and dealt Santana/MucCutchen for a swap of 5th and 8th round draft picks.

Long story short, here are the best players now available for me to draft. I have the 6th overall pick and the 10th overall pick. I'm thinking of trading my 10th overall pick and moving up to the 2nd overall pick. With picks 2 and 6 I think I could snag two big time pitchers like Haren/Cain. The cost of that trade would probably be me moving up the 8 spots and losing 18 spots a few rounds later.

1. Do you do the trade and move up? If so who do you take?
2. Who do you aim for at 6 AND 10?

BATS:
Gordon, Alex LF KC
Holliday, Matt LF STL
Zobrist, Ben 2B TB
Young, Chris CF ARI
Victorino, Shane CF PHI
Choo, Shin-Soo RF CLE
Bruce, Jay RF CIN
Swisher, Nick RF NYY
Berkman, Lance RF STL
Pence, Hunter RF PHI
Butler, Billy DH KC
Ortiz, David DH BOS
Uggla, Dan 2B ATL
Konerko, Paul 1B CHW
Weeks, Rickie 2B MIL
Bourn, Michael CF ATL

PITCH:
Haren, Dan SP LAA
Gallardo, Yovani SP MIL
Garza, Matt SP CHC
Romero, Ricky SP TOR
Hudson, Daniel SP ARI
Santana, Ervin SP LAA
Gonzalez, Gio SP WAS
Jimenez, Ubaldo SP CLE
Latos, Mat SP CIN
Cain, Matt SP SF
Beckett, Josh SP BOS
Sanchez, Anibal SP MIA
Darvish, Yu SP TEX
Bumgarner, Madison SP SF
Johnson, Josh SP MIA
Hanson, Tommy SP ATL
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Re: 6th overall and 10th overall pick in 5th round

Postby Element » Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:16 pm

With all of those arms left, I would not reach for two starters here. I like Haren a lot this season too, but if for some crazy reason Holliday is still there you need to pounce. I would love to get Holliday, Haren or Bruce. I would pass on Cain and 'settle' on Bumgarner or Gallardo later. I think that you have a good chance to get Bruce (unless Haren/Holliday was there) with the 6a and maybe Zobrist with 6b. I would then look for Gallardo or Bumgarner when it comes back.
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Re: WHIR: 6th overall and 10th overall pick in 5th round

Postby MaudDib » Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:23 pm

I don't think I would trade your picks. There is a lot of talent in the draft so moving up doesn't really benefit you all that much. First pick I would look to get Holliday/Haren then I would look at Pence/Gallardo.
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Re: WHIR: 6th overall and 10th overall pick in 5th round

Postby CGHitman14 » Sat Mar 17, 2012 1:44 pm

Here's the issue.

If I keep 6 and 10, from talking to people I would imagine that the first 5 taken are:

Holliday
Haren
Cain
Gallardo
Bumgarner

Then what? I'm not interested reach for Josh Johnson? Settle for Hudson? I'm just not sure I'm a fan of either of those which is why i'm strongly considering a move up in the draft to make sure I can secure a Holliday or Haren.
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Re: WHIR: 6th overall and 10th overall pick in 5th round

Postby lane_anasazi2 » Sat Mar 17, 2012 2:47 pm

CGHitman14 wrote:Here's the issue.

If I keep 6 and 10, from talking to people I would imagine that the first 5 taken are:

Holliday
Haren
Cain
Gallardo
Bumgarner

Then what? I'm not interested reach for Josh Johnson? Settle for Hudson? I'm just not sure I'm a fan of either of those which is why i'm strongly considering a move up in the draft to make sure I can secure a Holliday or Haren.


Then you take Jay Bruce and do a fist-pump. Candidates for 10th overall pick: Latos, Darvish, Zobrist.
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Re: WHIR: 6th overall and 10th overall pick in 5th round

Postby CGHitman14 » Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:08 pm

lane_anasazi2 wrote:
CGHitman14 wrote:Here's the issue.

If I keep 6 and 10, from talking to people I would imagine that the first 5 taken are:

Holliday
Haren
Cain
Gallardo
Bumgarner

Then what? I'm not interested reach for Josh Johnson? Settle for Hudson? I'm just not sure I'm a fan of either of those which is why i'm strongly considering a move up in the draft to make sure I can secure a Holliday or Haren.


Then you take Jay Bruce and do a fist-pump. Candidates for 10th overall pick: Latos, Darvish, Zobrist.


Bruce isn't worth a 5th rounder. In H2H points, consistenty is key. The guy is too streak right now. Way to many K's.

We're also entering the era of dominant pitchers. Good pitchers are back to beating good bats. I'm going to do the trade, have the #2 overall, and guarantee that I add a quality arm, possibly two. Then in the 6th, where the spot is more appropriate, I'll use a pick on a bat.
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Re: WHIR: 6th overall and 10th overall pick in 5th round

Postby iaoto » Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:46 pm

You have five: Pujols, Upton, Lincecum, Hanley and Wainwright
But you can keep 4? Trade Wainwright for another pick.

I like them in this order if it's H2H, with possibly adding Bourn at the end so you secure a cat win with Stolen Bases 90% of the weeks.
Holliday, Matt LF STL
Pence, Hunter RF PHI
Bruce, Jay RF CIN
Uggla, Dan 2B ATL

Pitchers I'd go:
Bumgarner, Madison SP SF
Hudson, Daniel SP ARI
Haren, Dan SP LAA
Cain, Matt SP SF
Latos, Mat SP CIN
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Re: WHIR: 6th overall and 10th overall pick in 5th round

Postby raiders_umpire » Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:51 pm

Personally I would stick with the picks that you have, but if you do trade up, pick either Pence or Bruce not a pitcher.
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Re: WHIR: 6th overall and 10th overall pick in 5th round

Postby Beeblebrox » Sat Mar 17, 2012 9:59 pm

raiders_umpire wrote:Personally I would stick with the picks that you have, but if you do trade up, pick either Pence or Bruce not a pitcher.


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Re: WHIR: 6th overall and 10th overall pick in 5th round

Postby MaudDib » Sat Mar 17, 2012 11:19 pm

He is right about Bruce in a points league. He strikes out too much to be worth taking over a pitcher. I traded him away in most of my points leagues because I am not sure he will ever be worth starting.

If starters are what you want, then make the move up and grab Haren or Gallardo.
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