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Kinsler and Haren for Pedroia and Castro

Postby jeffam1 » Fri Mar 16, 2012 1:17 am

Hello all,

I can't thank you all enough for the advice and insight provided on this forum.

This is my first go around with Fantasy Baseball. It's a head to head 10 man league.

I have been offered this trade:

I give:
Ian Kinsler (Tex - 2B)
Dan Haren (LAA - SP)
Alexei Ramirez (CWS - SS)
Nick Swisher (NYY - 1B, OF)

I get:
Dustin Pedroia (Bos - 2B)
Starlin Castro (ChC - SS)
Gio Gonzalez (Was - SP)
Drew Storen (Was - RP)

My team looks like this:

C - Yadier Molina
1B - Eric Hosmer
2B - Ian Kinsler
3B - Adrian Beltre
SS - Alexei Ramirez
OF - Ryan Braun
OF - Jay Bruce
OF - Shin-Soo Choo
Util - Michael bourn
Util - Nick Swisher
Bench - Logan Morrison
BN - Mike Aviles
BN - Justin Morneau

SP - Clayton Kershaw
SP - Dan Haren
SP - Matt Cain
SP - Mat Latos
RP - Brandon League
RP - Javy Guerra
RP -Tyler Clippard
P - Brandon Beachy
BN - Johnny Cueto
BN - Max Scherzer

I am very confused but have been picking things up thanks to this forum. Thank you so much in advance for any input or thoughts you may have on this trade!
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Re: Kinsler and Haren for Pedroia and Castro

Postby 49ersavior » Fri Mar 16, 2012 2:07 am

I see no reason to go for this. You would get a small upgrades at 2b and ss, but Dan Haren is a surefire stud and a great #2. Gio Gonzalez doesnt even touch Haren. 't a 10 team league there will always be a breakout RP that will be easy to pickup off the Waiver wire, so although Storen is strong, he doesn't make or break this trade. I'd stay put, your starting rotation looks very solid and that's something you want to keep. Just wondering, I know its a 10 team league, but how did you get Kershaw and Braun? Those are pretty strong 1st/2nd round drafts.
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Re: Kinsler and Haren for Pedroia and Castro

Postby Beeblebrox » Fri Mar 16, 2012 2:16 am

I'd pass on that deal.

I definitely like Peds over Kinsler and Starlin over Alexei....but the downgrade from Haren to Gio is just too much, and you don't need Storen. Just watch the various closing situations around the league and you can grab strong RP's off the WW. For instance, I snagged Walden off the WW in my league in the very early going last season.

If you can restructure the deal into something like a 3-for-3 deal with Peds/Starlin/Gio for Kinsler/Alexei/Latos...I'd do that. Otherwise, just stay put.


PS - In a 10-team league, Morneau is not worthy of a roster spot.
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Re: Kinsler and Haren for Pedroia and Castro

Postby HOOTIE » Fri Mar 16, 2012 4:20 am

I would do it.
Pedroia is safer then Kinsler.
Castro is a boost over Alexei.
Storen becomes your best closer, and i like over Swisher.
The only spot you lose is Haren/Gio, and you still would have 4 SP studs, and SP is the easiest to find imo.
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Re: Kinsler and Haren for Pedroia and Castro

Postby mikekim2121 » Fri Mar 16, 2012 7:03 am

HOOTIE wrote:I would do it.
Pedroia is safer then Kinsler.
Castro is a boost over Alexei.
Storen becomes your best closer, and i like over Swisher.
The only spot you lose is Haren/Gio, and you still would have 4 SP studs, and SP is the easiest to find imo.


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You take a big hit in the Haren to Gio dropoff but Kinsler is always an injury risk and Castro is a sizeable upgrade over Alexi. Those 2 upgrades combined with the Storen addition, I think you should take it.

I can see both sides to this deal but I think it would be a net gain
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Re: Kinsler and Haren for Pedroia and Castro

Postby Kimbos Beard » Fri Mar 16, 2012 7:32 am

HOOTIE wrote:I would do it.
Pedroia is safer then Kinsler.
Castro is a boost over Alexei.
Storen becomes your best closer, and i like over Swisher.
The only spot you lose is Haren/Gio, and you still would have 4 SP studs, and SP is the easiest to find imo.


This. I actually like this trade for you. Castro should be a very nice upgrade over Alexei and I would prefer Pedroia to Kinsler. Also in a 10 team league Swisher doesn't have much value. I would probably be playing LoMo over him anyway, and Storen is a stud closer.

Yes you loose on the Haren/Gio angle but you have to give this guy something, and I think you pitching is extremely strong anyway.
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Re: Kinsler and Haren for Pedroia and Castro

Postby jeffam1 » Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:22 am

Thanks for the replies, everyone, they give me a lot to think about.

I'll have to continue mulling this over today, as the offer will only stand for 24 hours.
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Re: Kinsler and Haren for Pedroia and Castro

Postby mkultra » Fri Mar 16, 2012 11:38 am

I would definitely do the trade, but I suspect that this, like a lot of Kinsler trades, hinges on how healthy you think he'll be. Me? I'd take Pedroia over him any day.
You'll be giving up some in your ERA and WHIP in going from Haren to Gonzalez, but Gio's got a great K rate and could win as many games as Haren.
Swisher is a replacement-level player in a 10-teamer. Storen's a GREAT add for you.

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Re: Kinsler and Haren for Pedroia and Castro

Postby Pogotheostrich » Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:05 pm

I'd do it. Like others have said the only downside is going from Haren to Gio. In H2H I'll take the offensive upgrades and young closer over the SP downgrade.
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Re: Kinsler and Haren for Pedroia and Castro

Postby Broncmet724 » Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:18 pm

I'd do it
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