8 player keeper league deal (Felix, Bautista...)

[bighurt135]

Hey all,
I'm in a 12 team standard 5x5 keeper league. Here is a trade offer I received a below is my team:

My: Felix Hernandez, Josh Johnson, Hunter Pence, Ben Zobrist
for his: Jose Bautista, Matt Cain, Jason Kipnis, Colby Lewis

My team:
C- McCann
1- Sanchez
2- Zobrist
SS- JJ Hardy
3- Aramis Ramirez
OF- Pence, Stubbs, Quentin, Seth Smith (need to drop him), Tabata, Revere, Bourgeious
C- Ramos
2- Hill

P- Hernandez
P- Johnson
P- CJ Wilson
P- Ian Kennedy
P- Jaime Garcia
P- James McDonald
P- Jonathan Sanchez
P- Bud Noris
RP- Soria, Bailey, Madson

So I'm kind of balanced all around, although I could do with more power and RBIs.

Would that trade really help my team? Thanks!

[MashinSpuds]

I would say you do need some power, and Bautista would be great to have, but you're giving up too much. This is mainly in part because I don't really think Kipnis and Lewis are going to help out your team much, while the other guy gets four really solid players. JJ may still have injury concerns, but if he holds up I think he and Cain could be a wash. Therefore, it's Bautista for a #1 ace, a #2/3 OF, and a power/speed guy in Zobrist. No, I don't think Kipnis and Lewis are going to make this deal worthwhile for you.

Unless he upgrades one of those last two options severely, I wouldn't accept the offer on the table.

[GiantsFan14]

as much as i love bautista, kipnis and lewis just aren't enough to warrant giving up 4 very good players.

[CadensDad]

I'd pass on this deal.

[MaudDib]

as much as i love bautista, kipnis and lewis just aren't enough to warrant giving up 4 very good players.

Agreed. And your SP would be decimated.

[silverZ]

Bautista > Felix
Cain = Johnson
Kipnis < Pence
Lewis < Zobrist

From a strictly value perspective it's pretty close, but from a team perspective I don't think you can compete with that post trade rotation. I would counter offer asking for a better pitcher than Lewis. Maybe see if he'll do Johnson + Aram for Bautista?

[bighurt135]

Thanks all. I had the same thoughts but needed to get some more feedback. I'm probably going to see if he'd do a straight-up trade of Felix for either Bautista or Tulo because he is really weak in SPs.

[jefferey13]

Thanks all. I had the same thoughts but needed to get some more feedback. I'm probably going to see if he'd do a straight-up trade of Felix for either Bautista or Tulo because he is really weak in SPs.

That would be an insane trade on his part if he even thought of doing thought. Bautista or Tulo should be able to fetch a MUCH better pitcher IMO. Tulo is one of the best long term prospects in the league. Maybe go hernandez and zobrist and see if it doesn't get vetoed.

[HOOTIE]

Thanks all. I had the same thoughts but needed to get some more feedback. I'm probably going to see if he'd do a straight-up trade of Felix for either Bautista or Tulo because he is really weak in SPs.

That would be an insane trade on his part if he even thought of doing thought. Bautista or Tulo should be able to fetch a MUCH better pitcher IMO. Tulo is one of the best long term prospects in the league. Maybe go hernandez and zobrist and see if it doesn't get vetoed.

Much better pitcher?
Imo, Felix is the 2nd best keeper SP.
How much better can you get at SP?

[jefferey13]

Thanks all. I had the same thoughts but needed to get some more feedback. I'm probably going to see if he'd do a straight-up trade of Felix for either Bautista or Tulo because he is really weak in SPs.

That would be an insane trade on his part if he even thought of doing thought. Bautista or Tulo should be able to fetch a MUCH better pitcher IMO. Tulo is one of the best long term prospects in the league. Maybe go hernandez and zobrist and see if it doesn't get vetoed.

Much better pitcher?
Imo, Felix is the 2nd best keeper SP.
How much better can you get at SP?

Most leagues can only keep players for 3-4 years, and in that timeline I think there are a lot of better choices than Felix. It's just my opinion of course. I'd take Verlander, Kershaw, or basically the Phillies entire rotation. But, I probably overstated my feelings against Felix. Even though he has been consistent for the last 3 years, I just don't think he will replicate.But by all means OP should listen to smarter people haha.