I had Livan last year.. and i have him again this year. I wouldnt trade Clemens for him though. Livan is an innings eater. Last year was a career year for him. He set personal bests in K's, ERA, Whip, Walks. Who knows if he can come close to that again. If he can, great. I dont think he'll hurt your team at all though either. But this is one year he's been that solid. Clemens has been solid throughout his career. He's moving to the NL where the majority have not seen him. Advantage-Clemens. Plus his team is better than the Expos. Only thing that may have others hung-up about is his age and the fact he'll have to run the bases in the NL (groin injury again??) I dont think either one is bad for you but i would rather have Clemens based on his career and that hitters wont know how nasty he is. Don't be surprised to see Livan shipped out before the trade deadline if the Expos are out of playoff contention, which could raise his stock even more.