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Postby onitapgr » Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:09 am

10 Team H2H Dynasty - standard 5x5
6 man MILB roster

Would you do this trade? If not, what is the issue with it?

I trade away:
Geovany Soto (CHC - C)
BJ Upton (TB - OF)
Ben Zobrist (TB - 2B, OF)
C.C. Sabathia (NYY - SP)
Mike Trout (LAA - OF) milb eligible

I receive:
Carlos Santana (Cle - C, 1B)
Brett Lawrie (Tor - 3B)
Matt Garza (CHC - SP)
Vernon Wells (LAA - OF)

My current team:
C - Geovany Soto (CHC - C)
1B - Adrian Gonzalez (Bos - 1B)
2B - Michael Cuddyer (Col - 1B,2B,OF)
3B - Aramis Ramirez (Mil - 3B)
SS - JJ Hardy (Bal - SS)
OF - Jacoby Ellsbury (Bos - OF)
OF - Curtis Granderson (NYY - OF)
OF - Matt Holliday (StL - OF)
UTIL - BJ Upton (TB - OF)
UTIL - Chris Young (Ari - OF)

BN - Mike Moustakas (KC - 3B)
BN - Jason Kipnis (Cle - 2B)
BN - Stephen Drew (Ari - SS)
BN - Peter Bourjos (LAA - OF)
BN - Ben Zobrist (TB - 2B, OF)

SP - Cliff Lee (Phi - SP)
SP - James Shields (TB - SP)
SP - CJ Wilson (LAA - SP)
SP - C.C. Sabathia (NYY - SP)
RP - John Axford (Mil - RP)
RP - Joel Hanrahan (Pit - RP)
P - Eric Bedard (Pit - SP)
P - Homer Bailey (Cin - SP)

BN - Chad Billingsley (LAD - SP)
BN - Ricky Nolasco (Mia - SP)
BN - Jake Peavy (CWS - SP)
BN - Henderson Alvarez (Tor - SP)

Minor League Roster -

1) Mike Trout (LAA - OF)
2) empty
3) empty
4) empty
5) empty
6) empty
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Re: Dynasty trade....WHIR!

Postby Element » Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:48 am

No thanks. Getting Lawrie is nice, but I'd rather have Trout in a dynasty. I know that CC Isn't getting any younger either, but I don't see him all of a sudden falling off the map. I wouldn't move him while targeting a catcher ... especially in an 8 team league. Oh ... and Bossman Jr and Zorilla are pretty good too. You're giving up way to much here,
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Re: Dynasty trade....WHIR!

Postby fast dogs » Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:58 am

You lose the free super prospect player and gain the useless Wells.You have A Ram so getting the nice kids at 3rd & C just really isn't worth it for what you are giving up roster-wise. Its not easy to acquire Santana and Lawrie but I think you've overpaid to do it. I gotta pass
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Re: Dynasty trade....WHIR!

Postby onitapgr » Thu Feb 16, 2012 10:24 am

Element wrote:No thanks. Getting Lawrie is nice, but I'd rather have Trout in a dynasty. I know that CC Isn't getting any younger either, but I don't see him all of a sudden falling off the map. I wouldn't move him while targeting a catcher ... especially in an 8 team league. Oh ... and Bossman Jr and Zorilla are pretty good too. You're giving up way to much here,


It's a 10 team league.

My thinking is:
- Geovany Soto is worthless.
- Zobrist is good, but I have Cuddyer and Kipnis for 2B and my OF is stacked...so Zobrist would be on my bench most of the time
- I like Upton, but he is my 4th or 5th best OF, he would probably ride my bench a lot too.
- Sabathia is my biggest loss, but I still have a lot of talent and Garza is a borderline ace
- Trout could be great, but like any other prospect, it's no guarantee.
- Wells....meh, I could drop him for Boesch, but he still hit 25 hr, and I think he improves a lot this year, hopefully hitting behind Pujols...
- my C and 3B were weak and Santana and Lawrie are arguably the best choices at C and 3B in a dynasty.
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Re: Dynasty trade....WHIR!

Postby MaudDib » Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:14 pm

I don't think so. It is close but I like Trout especially in a dynasty more than this. Plus you already have so much talent that you can wait for Trout to mature.
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Re: Dynasty trade....WHIR!

Postby Tonk78 » Fri Feb 17, 2012 2:42 pm

I think I would do it. The trade boils down to Lawrie and Santana for Sabathia and Trout. You are getting 2 young studs for 1 young stud and an overweight pitcher. I think that this trade will hurt you this year (but not much since you have some good pitching depth) and it will help a lot since Santana and Lawrie could lead their position for years. Trout may also but it is a lot easier to get good OF then good C and 3B. ;-D
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Re: Dynasty trade....WHIR!

Postby Urban Cohorts » Fri Feb 17, 2012 3:17 pm

onitapgr wrote:It's a 10 team league.

My thinking is:
- Geovany Soto is worthless.
- Zobrist is good, but I have Cuddyer and Kipnis for 2B and my OF is stacked...so Zobrist would be on my bench most of the time
- I like Upton, but he is my 4th or 5th best OF, he would probably ride my bench a lot too.
- Sabathia is my biggest loss, but I still have a lot of talent and Garza is a borderline ace
- Trout could be great, but like any other prospect, it's no guarantee.
- Wells....meh, I could drop him for Boesch, but he still hit 25 hr, and I think he improves a lot this year, hopefully hitting behind Pujols...
- my C and 3B were weak and Santana and Lawrie are arguably the best choices at C and 3B in a dynasty.


I completely agree with your line of thinking here, but based on who you are giving up, I would hold off for a better offer.

- Yes, Soto is worthless. But so are most catchers in a standard 10 team league. You don't need a top keeper with only 10 catchers on the books. You can easily redraft and/or drop guys throughout the season to fill this spot.
- Zobrist is good, and probably a top 5 2B at this point in time. Take advantage of that.
- I like Upton too. But don't forget that he is a decent breakout candidate this year. And while he may ride the pine for your squad, he is a top 30 OF, so someone could use him. Not a throw away piece in the least.
- Agreed about the Sabathia/Garza comment. But Sabathia is the best, most established player in the deal. And you lose him.
- Correct about Trout. But I'm willing to bet someone gives you more for him.
- Wells, meh..
- I agree that 3B is weak, but disagree about catcher (see above). Lawrie may end up being one of the best guys long term at 3B, but he doesn't have many more MLB at bats than Trout. Not to mention the fact that he cooled off and then got injured to end 2011. Everyone seems to be forgetting that. He is still a prospect in my book, not the next Evan Longoria.
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Re: Dynasty trade....WHIR!

Postby MadDog36 » Sat Feb 18, 2012 6:31 am

Yes you have pitching depth but i can hardly trust peavy and your depth arms. Do not get too confident. Yes you have OF depth. I would dump Chris Young though he's worthless and take a younger Bourjos even though he probably won't start.
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