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Postby wvufan1988 » Sun Feb 12, 2012 5:49 pm

I was thinking of dropping Randell Delgado in a keeper league for A.J Burnett if he is in fact going to Pittsburgh. Just looking for some advice before l go through with it. What do youy guys think?
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Re: A.J Burnett in Pittsburgh

Postby etex211 » Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:14 pm

I am still trying to understand why the Pirates would even want Burnett.

I wouldn't consider Burnett to be a keeper in any fantasy league.
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Re: A.J Burnett in Pittsburgh

Postby lotsofluck » Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:15 pm

wvufan1988 wrote:I was thinking of dropping Randell Delgado in a keeper league for A.J Burnett if he is in fact going to Pittsburgh. Just looking for some advice before l go through with it. What do youy guys think?


Haven't heard about it at all but I would stick with Delgado anyway
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Re: A.J Burnett in Pittsburgh

Postby Padres Fan » Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:19 pm

Delgado IMO, put up so-so numbers in the minors, in comparison to the other fellow pitching studs in ATL. I would never keep AJ and honestly his win totals and k' totals could stay the same the only difference I see from last year is a ERA in the 4.50 range instead of the 5.00= range. He is 35 and even in his good year that made the Yankees get him in TOR, his WHIP was still a little high.

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Re: A.J Burnett in Pittsburgh

Postby MaudDib » Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:35 pm

lotsofluck wrote:
wvufan1988 wrote:I was thinking of dropping Randell Delgado in a keeper league for A.J Burnett if he is in fact going to Pittsburgh. Just looking for some advice before l go through with it. What do youy guys think?


Haven't heard about it at all but I would stick with Delgado anyway

;-D Delgado has a ton of upside. Burnett does not. Even if he goes to the NL, it won't make him an ownable SP.
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Re: A.J Burnett in Pittsburgh

Postby Urban Cohorts » Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:53 am

MaudDib wrote: ;-D Delgado has a ton of upside. Burnett does not. Even if he goes to the NL, it won't make him an ownable SP.


I agree about Delgado, but disagree about Burnett. I wouldn't classify him as non-ownable.

Lets look at the positives here-

Burnett is a good bet for 190 IP or so. He could go more, but that would be gravy.
Burnett still has a very impressive K/9, especially during the second half of 2011. In fact, he had growth in the second half, but it was suppressed by his very unlucky 36%H against and a 68% strand rate.
Burnett generally does not perform as well as his underlying stats indicate. He is an average pitcher, not the abomination of ERA he currently produces.
Burnett is going to PIT- less HR, MUCH weaker division, easier park to pitch in, and gets a boost in K's from facing pitchers now.
Burnett would be leaving the NY Media market- sportscasters have routinely bashed him for years now. Maybe the small market in PIT has a calming effect.

And the negatives-
Terrible walk rate. No sign of improvement. A weaker division might help a tad, as AL East quality hitting more than dwarfs NL Central hitting (especially without Pujols and Fielder now).
He gives up way too many HRs. But again, moving to PIT will help to remedy this.

All in all, I'd be more than happy to grab Burnett with a late round pick in a redraft league if he does in fact get moved to PIT.

Delgado is a prospect who will probably need more time in the minors, but he is a keeper over Burnett in keeper/dynasty leagues. But it wouldn't surprise me in the least if AJ had an above average 2012. Just draft him late.
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Re: A.J Burnett in Pittsburgh

Postby GiantsFan14 » Mon Feb 13, 2012 3:56 am

Urban nailed it. AJ is definitely ownable if he moves to pittsburgh, definitely a guy I'll be targeting in the last rounds.
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Re: A.J Burnett in Pittsburgh

Postby lane_anasazi2 » Mon Feb 13, 2012 5:56 am

If you have a large amount of keepers or a minor league system, and can keep guys long-term without unreasonable inflation, Delgado. If not, Burnett. Basically what Urban said.

Urban, when do you find the time to write 4-5 long answers a day? I mean, damn.
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Re: A.J Burnett in Pittsburgh

Postby MaudDib » Mon Feb 13, 2012 11:01 am

Urban Cohorts wrote:
MaudDib wrote: ;-D Delgado has a ton of upside. Burnett does not. Even if he goes to the NL, it won't make him an ownable SP.


I agree about Delgado, but disagree about Burnett. I wouldn't classify him as non-ownable.

Lets look at the positives here-

Burnett is a good bet for 190 IP or so. He could go more, but that would be gravy.
Burnett still has a very impressive K/9, especially during the second half of 2011. In fact, he had growth in the second half, but it was suppressed by his very unlucky 36%H against and a 68% strand rate.
Burnett generally does not perform as well as his underlying stats indicate. He is an average pitcher, not the abomination of ERA he currently produces.
Burnett is going to PIT- less HR, MUCH weaker division, easier park to pitch in, and gets a boost in K's from facing pitchers now.
Burnett would be leaving the NY Media market- sportscasters have routinely bashed him for years now. Maybe the small market in PIT has a calming effect.

And the negatives-
Terrible walk rate. No sign of improvement. A weaker division might help a tad, as AL East quality hitting more than dwarfs NL Central hitting (especially without Pujols and Fielder now).
He gives up way too many HRs. But again, moving to PIT will help to remedy this.

All in all, I'd be more than happy to grab Burnett with a late round pick in a redraft league if he does in fact get moved to PIT.

Delgado is a prospect who will probably need more time in the minors, but he is a keeper over Burnett in keeper/dynasty leagues. But it wouldn't surprise me in the least if AJ had an above average 2012. Just draft him late.


I guess I should clarify these comments more along the lines of unownable for me. Bottom line, Burnett has had a 5+ ERA for the past two season and a WHIP over 1.4 the past three. Maybe the underlining statistics show a player that should have better numbers but if he doesn't, your team isn't going to be competitive if you star a pitcher that gives you a 5+ ERA.

Again maybe he can do something but he is also 36 years old which again cuts away most of the improvement you might see. At the end of the draft, there are a lot better players with more upside than Burnett will give you. He is more likely a guy that I would pick up off the WW for one start and then drop him.
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Re: A.J Burnett in Pittsburgh

Postby MadDog36 » Mon Feb 13, 2012 1:58 pm

Yeah what Maud said.
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