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Injuries KILL Roto Teams

Postby Ry-Guy » Wed Mar 31, 2004 6:50 pm

I have been the victim of injuries in the past, but I am getting killed this year. I have Prior, Garciaparra, and Schmidt on the same team that I drafted back on March 1st. Right now, I don't have enough room on my DL to improve that team.

Last year, injuries crippled some of the best players. I think many of them are milking these injuries because of GUARANTEED CONTRACTS. If they all had to play for pay, you'd see guys like Juan-Gone playing 160 games a year.
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Postby drunkenmonkey » Wed Mar 31, 2004 8:05 pm

Guys just used to be tougher. Back in the day, winning for the team was more important than protecting your health. You ever heard stories about Sandy Koufax? -- they'll make you cringe. Toward the end of his career (which wasn't very long), his elbow was the size of a football and he couldn't move his arm between starts. Today, he would be on and off the DL every year (can you say Darren Dreifort) and would be forgotten as soon as he retired. I'm not saying that the old way was better, but personally, I would rather go out in a blaze of hall of fame glory than ride the DL to a high-paid career of mediocrity.

Money is a big motivator though. It's easy for me to say that when someone isn't offering me 100 million for 8 years.
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Postby DK » Wed Mar 31, 2004 8:08 pm

Does anyone remember the times of Old Hoss Radbourn? Ah, the good old days... ;-D
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Postby afromangettindrunk » Wed Mar 31, 2004 8:17 pm

canibus wrote:For instance, Nomar is getting treated the same way I would treat a handful of primo canibus on a windy day--with kid gloves.


LOL hell yea
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Postby Danimal » Wed Mar 31, 2004 8:22 pm

BIG grin!
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Postby Captain Jack Sparrow » Wed Mar 31, 2004 8:32 pm

drunkenmonkey wrote:Guys just used to be tougher. Back in the day, winning for the team was more important than protecting your health.

Money is a big motivator though. It's easy for me to say that when someone isn't offering me 100 million for 8 years.



Its definitely a money thing. These guys are trying to extend their careers. I just read "The Teammates" by David Halberstam about the Red Sox of the 40's and Yogi Berra's new book. These guys played for the love of the game. They weren't making money. Berra led his team in RBI's and still had to work at a restaurant during the offseason. They'd play hurt because winning for the team was more important than the individual's wallet.

Do I blame the modern day players? No. I'd be just as cautious.
On the other hand there are some guys who are definitely milking it for all it's worth...
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Postby EugeneStyles » Wed Mar 31, 2004 8:44 pm

canibus wrote:Speaking of the "pansy era", I challenge any MLB or NBA player to lace-up at age 51 for even part of a season, let alone a full one!


How old was Minnie Minnoso when he suited up for a game with the White Sox in 1980? He was about 50 or 60, right?
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Postby AcidRock23 » Wed Mar 31, 2004 10:08 pm

The 'oldest' player I can think of, besides Lou Gehrig :,-( , who had gone down w/ an injury really quickly would be Sandy Koufax, who also astounded everyone by taking time off for religious reasons.

I'm thinking and thinking and maybe it's b/c my 1973 HOF guide that I got when I visited there as a kid only had HOF'ers in it who played for long ass times, but I can't think of that many 'old timers' (not to really say that Sandy K was an 'old timer' although I guess he'd qualify now...) who were good but hurt, like say Schmidt or Prior. Maybe the guys who got hurt just...disappeared??

A lot of it too is the fact that they can just hop in the clubhouse and get an xray/ MRI and see what's messed up. Medicine is A LOT different now!!
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Postby DieHardCubbie » Wed Mar 31, 2004 10:15 pm

canibus wrote:Speaking of the "pansy era", I challenge any MLB or NBA player to lace-up at age 51 for even part of a season, let alone a full one!



Julio Franco.....He has to be getting close to 50 by now.... :-B
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Postby Madison » Wed Mar 31, 2004 10:19 pm

DieHardCubbie wrote:
canibus wrote:Speaking of the "pansy era", I challenge any MLB or NBA player to lace-up at age 51 for even part of a season, let alone a full one!



Julio Franco.....He has to be getting close to 50 by now.... :-B


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Can't forget about Old Man Moyer too. He will just roll the ball over the plate in a few more years. :-D
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