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Re: Pick 1 keeper II

Postby MaudDib » Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:22 pm

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MaudDib wrote:Sandoval as well but I don't think it is that large of a margin for long-term. Moustakas has 30+HR power with a decent avg.


Pablo has 30+ power with an excellent average.


I realize that what I was saying is that the difference isn't that big. Everyone said Pablo by a gigantic margin but I don't think it is by that large of a margin. Moustakas can match him in about everything but the avg department and even that is only going to be a difference between .30 (Pablo .310 - Moustakas .280).
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Re: Pick 1 keeper II

Postby GiantsFan14 » Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:24 pm

MaudDib wrote:
GiantsFan14 wrote:
MaudDib wrote:Sandoval as well but I don't think it is that large of a margin for long-term. Moustakas has 30+HR power with a decent avg.


Pablo has 30+ power with an excellent average.


I realize that what I was saying is that the difference isn't that big. Everyone said Pablo by a gigantic margin but I don't think it is by that large of a margin. Moustakas can match him in about everything but the avg department and even that is only going to be a difference between .30 (Pablo .310 - Moustakas .280).


yes, but you're still talking about potential with Moustakas. Pablo has already performed at that level in the majors. that is where the large margin comes from.
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Re: Pick 1 keeper II

Postby sfjb » Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:26 pm

Panda is still only 25 remember.
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Re: Pick 1 keeper II

Postby Devil Doc » Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:31 pm

TheBull wrote:Moustakas

vs

Sandoval


(In general, who would your have now & long-term)



Moustakas with out a doubt.
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Re: Pick 1 keeper II

Postby MaudDib » Mon Jan 30, 2012 5:33 pm

GiantsFan14 wrote:
MaudDib wrote:
GiantsFan14 wrote:
Pablo has 30+ power with an excellent average.


I realize that what I was saying is that the difference isn't that big. Everyone said Pablo by a gigantic margin but I don't think it is by that large of a margin. Moustakas can match him in about everything but the avg department and even that is only going to be a difference between .30 (Pablo .310 - Moustakas .280).


yes, but you're still talking about potential with Moustakas. Pablo has already performed at that level in the majors. that is where the large margin comes from.


Again, I said long-term. So yes today Pablo is the better value. 2-4 years from now, I can't say that Pablo will be all that much better than Moustakas. Right now we have half a season from Moustakas so we don't know what he will turn into. Pablo is far from a sure thing himself. He has had two full seasons with 23+ HR and a BA over .315. The other season is a 13 HR .268 season. Pablo has never gotten more than 90 RBI or 80 Runs. So Pablo is not that high right now that Moustakas couldn't catch him quite easily with one good year. If (and I do mean if) Moustakas hits 30HR with 90 RBI and 90 Runs (which is doable) then he will actually be thought more highly than Pablo especially because Moustakas is only 23.

Again Pablo today but the margin isn't gigantic.
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Re: Pick 1 keeper II

Postby ensanimal » Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:51 pm

I'm going to agree with GF and say Pablo over either of the options, and if I'm drafting now, it's by a wide margin.If I'm making a deal, I'm taking Sandoval as fast as I can.
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Re: Pick 1 keeper II

Postby Urban Cohorts » Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:18 am

Sandoval over both Moustakas and Freeman.

Moustakas has potential, but I've already seen Pablo perform at a high level. Safer choice to go with the proven talent versus the speculative upside (albeit high upside) of Moustakas.
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