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Re: Giantsfan14's Projections and Rankings (updated 2/10)

Postby GiantsFan14 » Sat Feb 11, 2012 5:36 pm

skjelstrom wrote:Just thought I would point this out but it says Jay Bruce's age is 33 .


ya i've noticed quite a few ages are off. really have no clue how that happened.
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Re: Giantsfan14's Projections and Rankings (updated 2/10)

Postby skjelstrom » Sat Feb 11, 2012 5:44 pm

Well after going back and looking at it, it only appears to be in the Overall Hitter Rankings that it lists those ages wrong.
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Re: Giantsfan14's Projections and Rankings (updated 2/10)

Postby GiantsFan14 » Sat Feb 11, 2012 5:50 pm

skjelstrom wrote:Well after going back and looking at it, it only appears to be in the Overall Hitter Rankings that it lists those ages wrong.


Nice find, that's super weird because my overall hitter rankings were copied straight from my positional rankings, hopefully none of the actual projections got mixed up. I'm just gonna delete ages in overall hitting rankings, gonna take too much time to go through and check them one by one. Thanks.
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Re: Giantsfan14's Projections and Rankings (updated 2/10)

Postby Whalewang » Sun Feb 12, 2012 9:11 pm

Amazing job. Thanks.
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Re: Giantsfan14's Projections and Rankings (updated 2/10)

Postby GardnerRunsRampant » Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:16 am

So combining the z-scores (W,S,K,ERA,WHIP) on the top 150 or so pitchers in your list, Madison Bumgarner comes out ranked 9th among all pitchers (5.01 - top is kershaw at 8.27). He's ahead of guys like Felix Hernandez (4.94), Jered Weaver (4.77), Matt Cain (4.26), and Dan Haren (4.92). Also, that z-score is much larger than the combined z-score you get from the WOC spreadsheet (2.83, high is Halladay at 9.56) or Tavish's spreadsheet (3.73, high is Kershaw at 8.41).

That said, I was curious, why are you so much higher on Bumgarner than everyone else?
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Re: Giantsfan14's Projections and Rankings (updated 2/10)

Postby J35J » Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:47 am

GardnerRunsRampant wrote:So combining the z-scores (W,S,K,ERA,WHIP) on the top 150 or so pitchers in your list, Madison Bumgarner comes out ranked 9th among all pitchers (5.01 - top is kershaw at 8.27). He's ahead of guys like Felix Hernandez (4.94), Jered Weaver (4.77), Matt Cain (4.26), and Dan Haren (4.92). Also, that z-score is much larger than the combined z-score you get from the WOC spreadsheet (2.83, high is Halladay at 9.56) or Tavish's spreadsheet (3.73, high is Kershaw at 8.41).

That said, I was curious, why are you so much higher on Bumgarner than everyone else?


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Re: Giantsfan14's Projections and Rankings (updated 2/10)

Postby GardnerRunsRampant » Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:53 am

J35J wrote:
GardnerRunsRampant wrote:So combining the z-scores (W,S,K,ERA,WHIP) on the top 150 or so pitchers in your list, Madison Bumgarner comes out ranked 9th among all pitchers (5.01 - top is kershaw at 8.27). He's ahead of guys like Felix Hernandez (4.94), Jered Weaver (4.77), Matt Cain (4.26), and Dan Haren (4.92). Also, that z-score is much larger than the combined z-score you get from the WOC spreadsheet (2.83, high is Halladay at 9.56) or Tavish's spreadsheet (3.73, high is Kershaw at 8.41).

That said, I was curious, why are you so much higher on Bumgarner than everyone else?


viewtopic.php?t=438155&start=30


Sorry :-/ Been awhile since I looked at this thread. I guess I should have searched or caught myself up on it first. Thanks for the link back!
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Re: Giantsfan14's Projections and Rankings (updated 2/10)

Postby J35J » Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:54 am

GardnerRunsRampant wrote:
J35J wrote:
GardnerRunsRampant wrote:So combining the z-scores (W,S,K,ERA,WHIP) on the top 150 or so pitchers in your list, Madison Bumgarner comes out ranked 9th among all pitchers (5.01 - top is kershaw at 8.27). He's ahead of guys like Felix Hernandez (4.94), Jered Weaver (4.77), Matt Cain (4.26), and Dan Haren (4.92). Also, that z-score is much larger than the combined z-score you get from the WOC spreadsheet (2.83, high is Halladay at 9.56) or Tavish's spreadsheet (3.73, high is Kershaw at 8.41).

That said, I was curious, why are you so much higher on Bumgarner than everyone else?


viewtopic.php?t=438155&start=30


Sorry :-/ Been awhile since I looked at this thread. I guess I should have searched or caught myself up on it first. Thanks for the link back!


No worries. ;-D
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Re: Giantsfan14's Projections and Rankings (updated 2/10)

Postby Tavish » Fri Mar 02, 2012 1:52 pm

GardnerRunsRampant wrote:So combining the z-scores (W,S,K,ERA,WHIP) on the top 150 or so pitchers in your list, Madison Bumgarner comes out ranked 9th among all pitchers (5.01 - top is kershaw at 8.27). He's ahead of guys like Felix Hernandez (4.94), Jered Weaver (4.77), Matt Cain (4.26), and Dan Haren (4.92). Also, that z-score is much larger than the combined z-score you get from the WOC spreadsheet (2.83, high is Halladay at 9.56) or Tavish's spreadsheet (3.73, high is Kershaw at 8.41).

That said, I was curious, why are you so much higher on Bumgarner than everyone else?

A ton of the difference will come from how the different utilities determine the initial player pool to run a std_dev off of.
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Re: Giantsfan14's Projections and Rankings (updated 2/10)

Postby GardnerRunsRampant » Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:00 pm

Tavish wrote:
GardnerRunsRampant wrote:So combining the z-scores (W,S,K,ERA,WHIP) on the top 150 or so pitchers in your list, Madison Bumgarner comes out ranked 9th among all pitchers (5.01 - top is kershaw at 8.27). He's ahead of guys like Felix Hernandez (4.94), Jered Weaver (4.77), Matt Cain (4.26), and Dan Haren (4.92). Also, that z-score is much larger than the combined z-score you get from the WOC spreadsheet (2.83, high is Halladay at 9.56) or Tavish's spreadsheet (3.73, high is Kershaw at 8.41).

That said, I was curious, why are you so much higher on Bumgarner than everyone else?

A ton of the difference will come from how the different utilities determine the initial player pool to run a std_dev off of.


I trimmed all 3 sources down to the same 158 player pool before doing any calculations.
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