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Re: Mariners & Yankees . Michael Pineda for Jesus Montero

Postby kab21 » Mon Jan 16, 2012 12:05 pm

It depends if they are signing a DH or part timer to DH some. Tex and ARod can definitely use days off so it's possible that they are only looking for an Andruw Jones type.
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Postby MasterX1918 » Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:57 pm

They already have an Andruw Jones type hitter, his name is Andruw Jones.
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Re: Mariners & Yankees . Michael Pineda for Jesus Montero

Postby kab21 » Mon Jan 16, 2012 8:32 pm

MasterX1918 wrote:They already have an Andruw Jones type hitter, his name is Andruw Jones.


thanks. :*)

Maybe they'll also sign a lefty version.
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Re: Mariners & Yankees . Michael Pineda for Jesus Montero

Postby bayside » Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:10 pm

over/under 12 months before Pineda signs an extension?
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Re: Mariners & Yankees . Michael Pineda for Jesus Montero

Postby bigh0rt » Mon Jan 16, 2012 9:34 pm

bayside wrote:over/under 12 months before Pineda signs an extension?

What is the exact status of him currently?? The way they were talking on the radio the day after the trade it sounded like he was cost controlled for the next 5-6 years already. Again, its NY Sports Talk radio so its not the pinnacle in valid information.
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Re: Mariners & Yankees . Michael Pineda for Jesus Montero

Postby bayside » Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:06 pm

hes only really under any cost certainty through 2013... then he should make a killing in arbitration if the Yankees dont give him a contract first.
Assuming he doesn't miss an entire season in either of the next 2 years he should get a minimum of 5 mil in arb 1(and that number could be much higher) for 2014, and the price will only go up from there.

but hes likely going to be worth way more than hes paid regardless, and its not like the Yankees are trying to pinch pennies, so who knows what they'll do
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Re: Mariners & Yankees . Michael Pineda for Jesus Montero

Postby bigh0rt » Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:09 pm

bayside wrote:hes only really under any cost certainty through 2013... then he should make a killing in arbitration if the Yankees dont give him a contract first.
Assuming he doesn't miss an entire season in either of the next 2 years he should get a minimum of 5 mil in arb 1(and that number could be much higher) for 2014, and the price will only go up from there.

but hes likely going to be worth way more than hes paid regardless, and its not like the Yankees are trying to pinch pennies, so who knows what they'll do
do we think he gets a deal on par with what Gio Gonzalez just got??
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Re: Mariners & Yankees . Michael Pineda for Jesus Montero

Postby KCollins1304 » Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:39 pm

I wouldn't expect the Yankees to extend him. The last pre-arb pitcher they had that was worth considering extending was Wang. He had a lot of success his first few years with the Yankees and he wanted to sign a multi-year contract since they had given one to Cano around the same time, but the Yankees didn't want to (the decision turned out well for them). Obviously Pineda's upside is higher than Wang, but I think Cashman prefers to go year-to-year with pitchers. For the Yankees saving $15-20M over the next 5 years on Pineda compared to paying him through arbitration isn't worth the risk. Maybe they would offer him a contract in a few years to buy out his last year of arbitration and lock him up for a few years after that, but I don't think they're going to sign him anytime soon.
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Re: Mariners & Yankees . Michael Pineda for Jesus Montero

Postby bayside » Mon Jan 16, 2012 10:46 pm

if they offer him a deal in the next year i would think it would be for significantly less than the 40+ mil Gio is guaranteed (and 65mil+ it could be become via options) because:
1) Pineda has 2 fewer years MLB experience and thus is more risky
2) he is under under team control for 2 more seasons so the Yankees have more leverage than the Nats did with Gio.

I would expect that the the money it would take for Pineda to sign any extension increases every year, and if it happens after the 2012 season I could see a similar price tag.
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Re: Mariners & Yankees . Michael Pineda for Jesus Montero

Postby MasterX1918 » Mon Jan 16, 2012 11:05 pm

kab21 wrote:
MasterX1918 wrote:They already have an Andruw Jones type hitter, his name is Andruw Jones.


thanks. :*)

Maybe they'll also sign a lefty version.

maybe matsui or Damon?
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