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Postby Soxcess » Wed Mar 31, 2004 11:31 am

can somebody explain to me how a pitcher gets a hold, I was under the impression that if a relief pitcher came into a game with his team leading and he leaves with his team still leading that was hold. Are there other stipulations, and if so what are they??? Does it need to be similar to a save chance where you have to be within 3 runs, face the tying batter???
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Postby Soxcess » Wed Mar 31, 2004 11:41 am

does anybody have an answer to this question for me
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Postby Soxcess » Wed Mar 31, 2004 12:00 pm

anybody at all on the HOLDS issue????
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Postby Guest » Wed Mar 31, 2004 12:24 pm

Holds are handled just like Saves.

A middle reliever enters the game in the 7th or 8th inning. He must enter the game in a save situation AND leave the game with the save situation still intact.

Some sites say he must record an out while others say he doesn't have to record an out.

Hope this helps.
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Postby GotowarMissAgnes » Wed Mar 31, 2004 12:52 pm

Anonymous wrote:Holds are handled just like Saves.

A middle reliever enters the game in the 7th or 8th inning. He must enter the game in a save situation AND leave the game with the save situation still intact.

Some sites say he must record an out while others say he doesn't have to record an out.

Hope this helps.


It's not just the 7th or 8th inning.

The Yahoo rule follows the "must record an out" definition.

Hold

A Hold is credited any time a relief pitcher enters a game in a Save Situation (see definition below), records at least one out, and leaves the game never having relinquished the lead.

Note: a pitcher cannot finish the game and receive credit for a Hold, nor can he earn a hold and a save.

Save Situation

A Relief Pitcher is in a Save Situation when upon entering the game with his club leading, he has the opportunity to be the finishing pitcher (and is not the winning pitcher of record at the time), and meets any one of the three following conditions:

he has a lead of no more than three runs and has the opportunity to pitch for at least one inning, or

he enters the game, regardless of the count, with the potential tying run either on base, at bat, or on deck; or

he pitches three or more innings regardless of the lead and the official scorer credits him with a save.
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Postby Leiter Fan » Wed Mar 31, 2004 1:04 pm

As I also understand it, if a pitcher enters a game, records an out, qualitifes for the hold, and leaves the game with the lead still intact, he gets his hold even if his team ultimately ends up relinquishing the lead or even losing the game. This is correct, right?
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Postby KolbSaves » Wed Mar 31, 2004 2:03 pm

I'm not sure, so bump
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Postby jbones733 » Wed Mar 31, 2004 2:21 pm

Leiter Fan wrote:As I also understand it, if a pitcher enters a game, records an out, qualitifes for the hold, and leaves the game with the lead still intact, he gets his hold even if his team ultimately ends up relinquishing the lead or even losing the game. This is correct, right?


Yes that is correct, as long as he gets his job done
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