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Re: Please rank these SPs! whir as always!

Postby HOOTIE » Thu Jan 05, 2012 12:22 am

Element wrote:Ian Kennedy
James Shields
Michael Pineda
Mat Latos
Chris Carpenter

;-D
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Re: Please rank these SPs! whir as always!

Postby Blaise28 » Thu Jan 05, 2012 2:25 pm

I'd re-think these rankings on Latos. I loved him in SD but Cincy is a bandbox and gets more homer-pronen the summer. Latos is a fly ball pitcher. Unless his strikeout rate goes way up, he may give up a lot of HRs. I did not understand this trade since Volquez has a decent GO/AO ratio but to get Alonso, the Padres were probably willing to take on a player with baggage in Volquez who might mature someday.
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Re: Please rank these SPs! whir as always!

Postby raiders_umpire » Thu Jan 05, 2012 4:02 pm

HOOTIE wrote:
Element wrote:Ian Kennedy
James Shields
Michael Pineda
Mat Latos
Chris Carpenter

;-D




Hootie, why so down on Latos this year?
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Postby Urban Cohorts » Thu Jan 05, 2012 5:01 pm

Blaise28 wrote:I'd re-think these rankings on Latos. I loved him in SD but Cincy is a bandbox and gets more homer-pronen the summer. Latos is a fly ball pitcher. Unless his strikeout rate goes way up, he may give up a lot of HRs. I did not understand this trade since Volquez has a decent GO/AO ratio but to get Alonso, the Padres were probably willing to take on a player with baggage in Volquez who might mature someday.


Latos had a higher HR/FB ratio in PETCO than when he was pitching away. Yes, he may see a small rise in his HR numbers, but his win totals should go up being on a competitive team. I wouldn't call Latos a fly ball pitcher either. He ended the season at about 40%, but when you compare his horrendous start (April/May FB% = ~49.5%) to the rest of the year (FB% = ~38%), he looks pretty good in that department.

Here is a good Fangraphs read about him-

http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/index. ... incinnati/
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Re: Please rank these SPs! whir as always!

Postby HOOTIE » Thu Jan 05, 2012 7:13 pm

raiders_umpire wrote:
HOOTIE wrote:
Element wrote:Ian Kennedy
James Shields
Michael Pineda
Mat Latos
Chris Carpenter

;-D




Hootie, why so down on Latos this year?


Not really down on him, but i like Kennedy/Shields more.
I could put him over Pineda.
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Re: Please rank these SPs! whir as always!

Postby raiders_umpire » Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:11 pm

HOOTIE wrote:
raiders_umpire wrote:
HOOTIE wrote: ;-D




Hootie, why so down on Latos this year?


Not really down on him, but i like Kennedy/Shields more.
I could put him over Pineda.



It wasn't about Shields/Kennedy, but more Pineda. I see Pineda as a bit overrated this year, and then I saw you have Pineda ranked higher then Latos.
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Re: Please rank these SPs! whir as always!

Postby segerfan83 » Thu Jan 05, 2012 9:14 pm

1. Kennedy--Strong pitcher with decent K #'s playing in a weak hitting division.

2. Latos--This guy is going to rock this year. Most people don't know that he was healing/gaining conditioning for the first 1/1.5 months of starts last year. After that, he took off like a rocket. I'm not worried about that park switch, especially considering the better offense he is inheriting. Do it!

3. Shields--Good K #'s, but due for a regression, esp. if you look at his track record following good years. Also, I don't like pitchers in the A.L. East.

4. Pineda--Just a guess on this guy, but seems like a good up and comer. His offense won't help him out any.

5. Carpenter--Thought about putting him 4th, but his age is becoming a concern.
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Re: Please rank these SPs! whir as always!

Postby bigguy1551 » Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:06 pm

Ian Kennedy 1st Consistent, weak division, good K rate
James Shields 3rd some regression, tough division
Michael Pineda 4th Considered him 3rd but his offense stinks.
Mat Latos 2nd I think he will be a really good one
Chris Carpenter 5th Age a concern here numbers have increased last 3 years, still good k's though
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