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Postby A man in a box » Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:37 pm

Heard about this on MLB Network and when they where speaking with Peter Gammons he brought up the contraction word with the A's if they don't get a new stadium because their lease at the coliseum ends in 2013. Can you even build a stadium in 2 years, there is no land deal to speak of yet this is a rough road to go for them. Well they should be contracted if they can't get their financial house in order better that than any tax payer spending any money on a pro sports team.
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Re: Bailey dealt to Red Sox for Reddick

Postby pjalst » Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:45 pm

A man in a box wrote:Heard about this on MLB Network and when they where speaking with Peter Gammons he brought up the contraction word with the A's if they don't get a new stadium because their lease at the coliseum ends in 2013. Can you even build a stadium in 2 years, there is no land deal to speak of yet this is a rough road to go for them. Well they should be contracted if they can't get their financial house in order better that than any tax payer spending any money on a pro sports team.


I thought there was plans in the works to move the team to san Jose?

http://aol.sportingnews.com/mlb/story/2011-12-25/oakland-as-on-their-way-to-san-jose
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Re: Bailey dealt to Red Sox for Reddick

Postby bigh0rt » Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:52 pm

pjalst wrote:
A man in a box wrote:Heard about this on MLB Network and when they where speaking with Peter Gammons he brought up the contraction word with the A's if they don't get a new stadium because their lease at the coliseum ends in 2013. Can you even build a stadium in 2 years, there is no land deal to speak of yet this is a rough road to go for them. Well they should be contracted if they can't get their financial house in order better that than any tax payer spending any money on a pro sports team.


I thought there was plans in the works to move the team to san Jose?

As much as I would love contraction, I can only imagine they'd be much more likely to move to San Jose (or anywhere else, really) than to be contracted.
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Re: Bailey dealt to Red Sox for Reddick

Postby A man in a box » Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:55 pm

pjalst wrote: I thought there was plans in the works to move the team to san Jose?


There are but if they fall through they only have 2 more years left on their lease in Oakland. If they don't renew what are they going to do? Play at AT&T park until the situation is resolved, how long would that last a year or two. They need to get their financial house in order and with this team if they don't start to come together the "c" word may happen. It would be a grave injustice if government money had to be used in any way to get them a new stadium. Put up or shut up.
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Re: Bailey dealt to Red Sox for Reddick

Postby GiantsFan14 » Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:02 am

There's a lot of back and forth on whether mlb will let the A's move into San Jose. From what I've heard they already have a location and land deal in place with San Jose but the giants own the rights to the territory and it would basically take the mlb stepping in and forcing them to give it up. Bud has told the Giants that he won't let it happen, but they're gonna have to do something soon as their current situation just isn't going to work, that stadium is terrible.

http://mlb.sbnation.com/2011/12/24/2659585/oakland-as-relocate-san-jose/in/2405556

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2011/12/27/MNE21MHCKK.DTL&feed=rss.giants&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

Two pretty different takes on it in the last couple of days. I really have no clue where this is gonna end up going, it kinda seems like Bud has assured both sides that they'll get what they want when that clearly isn't possible.
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Re: Bailey dealt to Red Sox for Reddick

Postby BitterDodgerFan » Thu Dec 29, 2011 2:09 am

damn i didn't even know paps was in philly now. :*)
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Re: Bailey dealt to Red Sox for Reddick

Postby silverZ » Thu Dec 29, 2011 3:17 am

That's all it took for Bailey? 8-o
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Re: Bailey dealt to Red Sox for Reddick

Postby kab21 » Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:22 am

So the Red Sox traded a 3rd/4th OF'er with some but not a lot of upside for someone that is an ideal 4th OF'er. And the A's threw in a great closer for 2 mediocre prospects?
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Re: Bailey dealt to Red Sox for Reddick

Postby MasterX1918 » Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:37 am

This was robbery, fantastic deal for the red sox. Worst case scrnario Sweeney plays right field until Kalish is ready, or they sign someone like Cody Ross, Andruw Jones, Ordonez or Ludwick to platoon him with.
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Re: Bailey dealt to Red Sox for Reddick

Postby SpecialFNK » Thu Dec 29, 2011 11:18 am

I think the most interesting thing to come from this, is the intention now to use Daniel Bard in the starting rotation.
he hasn't started a game since 2007. he had 5 start in A+ and 17 starts in A, after being drafted out of college as a starter. his starting numbers in the minors, not good at all.
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/ ... bard.shtml
A 17 starts - 6.42 ERA, 1.80 WHIP, 61.2 IP, 55 H, 56 BB, 38 K, 5.55 K/9.
A+ 5 starts - 10.13 ERA, 3.23 WHIP, 13.1 IP, 21 H, 22 BB, 9 K, 6.08 K/9.

I would think IF the Red Sox plan on using Bard as a starter they would see how he does in spring training. if he is failing there, they return him to the bullpen before the season starts? or do you still give him regular season starts to see what he can do when it counts? could be a huge mistake for the Red Sox based on his career minor league numbers as a starter.

I would think it's easier to take a starter and make him a reliever than it is to take a reliever and make him a starter. you could take an average/below average starter and have him be a good/above average reliever. it usually takes more pitches to succeed as a starter, but you can have basically 2 pitches and be a successful reliever.

now that the Red Sox have traded for Bailey, does this make them wish they did not make the other Lowrie/Melancon trade?

instead of making Bard a starter, wouldn't it be better to trade Bard for a starter?

who does Boston use now in RF? Kalish? Sweeney? someone new?
I wouldn't want Sweeney as a starter.
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