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Trade J McGee and D McGowan for A Crow in 20 team dynasty?

Postby jmlevy » Tue Dec 06, 2011 3:35 pm

20 team dynasty H2H; 6x6 w/OPS & Holds; 22 ML keepers, 15-man farm

C - Kurt Suzuki (OAK)
1B - Brandon Allen (OAK)
1B - Matt LaPorta (CLE)
2B - Reid Brignac (TB)
3B - Danny Valencia (MIN)
RF - Shin-Soo Choo (CLE)
CF - Shane Victorino (PHI)
CF - Jordan Schafer (ATL)
LF - Matt Holliday (STL)
LF - Travis Snider (TOR)
LF - Nolan Reimold (BAL)

SP - Jered Weaver (LAA)
SP - Adam Wainwright (STL)
SP - Trevor Cahill (OAK)
SP - Daniel Duffy (KC)
SP - Jordan Lyles (HOU)
SP - Anibal Sanchez (FLA)
SP - Paul Maholm (PIT)
SP - Garrett Richards (LAA)
SP - Wade Miley (ARZ)
SP - Dustin McGowan (TOR)
RP - Jason Motte (STL)
RP - John Axford (MIL)
RP - Frank Francisco (TOR)
RP - Jake McGee (TB)
RP - Rex Brothers (COL)
RP - Fautino De Los Santos (OAK)
RP - Steve Cishek (FLA)

1 - Britton, Drake (0 IPs - SP - BOS)
2 - Cowart, Kaleb (0 Abs - 3B - LAA)
3 - Franklin, Nick (0 Abs - SS - Sea)
4 - Hicks, Aaron (0 Abs - OF - MIN)
5 - McNutt, Trey (0 IPs - SP - CHC)
6 - Mitchell, Jared (0 Abs - OF - CWS)
7 - Pimentel, Guillermo (0 Abs - OF - SEA)
8 - Rizzo, Anthony (128 Abs - 1B - SD)
9 - Salcedo, Edward (0 Abs - SS/3B - Atl)
10 - Sale, Josh (0 Abs - OF - TB)
11 - Segura, Jean (0 Abs - 2B/SS - LAA)
12 - Singleton, Jonathan (0 Abs - 1B - Hou)
13 - Tejeda, Oscar (0 Abs - 2B - BOS)
14 - Turner, Jacob (12 IPs - SP - DET)
15 -

I have been told I could trade D McGowan and one of J McGee, J Motte and R Brothers in exchange for Aaron Crow. I am sort of on the fence on this deal, so hopefully you can help steer me in the right direction.

McGowan is a throw-in. I don't really have roster space, and he was merely a late-season flier, so he is certainly expendable.

McGee is the least valuable of the three closing candidates mentioned. He is a lefty, but appears to be the heir apparent with Farnsworth only under contract for one more season. His command and control need further development, but he should be closing in TB as early as 2013.

Crow is a higher-regarded prospect than McGee, but has had an interesting career so far. He struggled as a top 50 prospect in 2010 pitching in A+ and AA. He then broke camp with the Royals as a reliever and shined, able to focus on his two dominant pitches: fastball and slider. Rumor has it that the Royals plan to try Crow out for the rotation, so he has a chance to return in 2012 as a starter. If Crow flops during spring training, or is beaten out by another #5 candidate (ahhem, Mike Montgomery), then he will likely return to the bullpen this season as a 7th inning guy or long-reliever.

While I think Crow has more potential value than McGee as this point, the water is murky at this point. Some analysts are sold on Crow, while others dislike him due to his lack of supporting pitches. At the very least, I could probably try to flip Crow with another piece for a hitter, which is what my most glaring need appears to be at this time.

What are your thoughts?
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Re: Trade J McGee and D McGowan for A Crow in 20 team dynast

Postby lane_anasazi2 » Tue Dec 06, 2011 6:34 pm

I'd make this deal in a heartbeat. McGowan doesn't matter; the odds of him being fantasy relevant ever again are.... well, really low. McGee is a closer candidate in the future but like you said, he's very unpolished. Crow is no slam dunk, but it sounds like he'll at least be given a chance to make it as a starter, and if he can make that work, that's valuable. And if he doesn't, you're left with a good MR who should be a decent source of holds.

In a 20-team dynasty, you're never going to be able to just pick up Justin Upton (or Mike Trout) on the FA list. But you can certainly get Rex Brothers, Sergio Santos, etc. Closer candidates appear every year. Even in a big league you can get a good relief corps off the FA list. So my point is you shouldn't sweat trading someone who MIGHT close in 2013.
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Re: Trade J McGee and D McGowan for A Crow in 20 team dynast

Postby jmlevy » Tue Dec 06, 2011 6:39 pm

lane_anasazi2 wrote:In a 20-team dynasty, you're never going to be able to just pick up Justin Upton (or Mike Trout) on the FA list. But you can certainly get Rex Brothers, Sergio Santos, etc. Closer candidates appear every year.

Funny enough, I do have Rex Brothers ;)
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Re: Trade J McGee and D McGowan for A Crow in 20 team dynast

Postby kirch5 » Tue Dec 06, 2011 8:29 pm

Make the deal!

Crow will end up being useful in fantasy, and I think he will move to the rotation sooner rather than later. So yes...DO IT!!
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Re: Trade J McGee and D McGowan for A Crow in 20 team dynast

Postby Urban Cohorts » Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:05 pm

lane_anasazi2 wrote:Closer candidates appear every year. Even in a big league you can get a good relief corps off the FA list. So my point is you shouldn't sweat trading someone who MIGHT close in 2013.


That sums it up for me. You aren't giving up much to get a guy with good potential. Crow could be an absolute bust in the rotation, but it could end up working out nicely for 2013 and beyond. I would certainly accept the deal.
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Re: Trade J McGee and D McGowan for A Crow in 20 team dynast

Postby MaudDib » Wed Dec 07, 2011 11:46 am

I am fine with this trade but I don't think it is a slam dunk. Crow is far from being a sure thing as a starter. He had major problems in High A so to think he will suddenly be able to pitch 7 innings against major league talent is still very much in question. He probably has the most upside but you are giving up two players with pretty decent upside as well. McGowan at one point was a future major league SP but injuries derailed him. If he can stay healthy, he has can easily be what you hope Crow will be and he has at least shown the ability to do it against major league talent.
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Re: Trade J McGee and D McGowan for A Crow in 20 team dynast

Postby Deswannie » Thu Dec 08, 2011 12:15 am

i agree any time you can get a starter for Rps i would do it. RP are much more commonly found on the waiver wire. I own rex and he was a waiver find while crow was a draft choice in the MILB draft we have.
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