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Re: Baseball Forecaster 2012

Postby J35J » Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:42 pm

HOOTIE wrote:You can tell who is elite, who is average, and who is wasting their time.


Different arguement.

What if everyone is on the same skill level, or close enough, the winners and losers are pretty random. Just check the Cafeholics Masters League as an example.
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Re: Baseball Forecaster 2012

Postby coleminer » Wed Jan 04, 2012 2:48 pm

Cream wrote:PDF files are available for those who bought it through baseballHQ.


Thanks - I found the email in my spam folder. Have a Happy New Year.
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Re: Baseball Forecaster 2012

Postby Inukchuk » Wed Jan 04, 2012 3:24 pm

J35J wrote:Yes, very good post SS. It's that fact that it is so much easier to get info on fantasy sports that is actually making it less fun for me...the work I put into it was/is the fun and rewarding part...but now it's almost become pointless with as much information that is out there now.


Sad but true... I feel as if you could print out any number of reputable fantasy sites' (including this one) rankings minutes before a draft, and still hang with very good players.
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Re: Baseball Forecaster 2012

Postby rjforlife » Wed Jan 04, 2012 6:39 pm

Inukchuk wrote:
J35J wrote:Yes, very good post SS. It's that fact that it is so much easier to get info on fantasy sports that is actually making it less fun for me...the work I put into it was/is the fun and rewarding part...but now it's almost become pointless with as much information that is out there now.


Sad but true... I feel as if you could print out any number of reputable fantasy sites' (including this one) rankings minutes before a draft, and still hang with very good players.



Then we all try to be so smart and take Kipnis in the 4th round or something crazy. It's nearly impossible to gain an edge now. I think the only real place where you can take advantage is in an auction. There, you can really strategize and outwit your opponents if you prepare and game plan enough. Then you do the work during the season, if you can. Drafts are really un-winnable at this point, if there is such a thing.
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Re: Baseball Forecaster 2012

Postby jbird669 » Fri Jan 06, 2012 1:15 pm

Pochucker wrote:OMG you really worry about drafting 1st or 12th? Everyone has prefrences where they draft ( I know couple in my big money league who prefer to draft 12th)I prefer middle but where I draft really never enters my mind in a negative way. You really do sound like you are fixated on luck.

You need a sleeper to break out? Well you have control of who you draft or pick up. So if they don't breakout its not luck its a poor decision. There are many breakouts each year --its up to you to pick right ones --not luck


I can't believe people still hold a draft, and not an auction, in fantasy baseball. Much better format to acquire players and much more fun IMO.
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Re: Baseball Forecaster 2012

Postby carter » Sat Jan 07, 2012 4:22 am

jbird669 wrote:I can't believe people still hold a draft, and not an auction, in fantasy baseball. Much better format to acquire players and much more fun IMO.


I can't believe it either.. once i tried auction, i never wanted to go back. its like the difference between playing checkers and chess - more strategy, more skill, more fun, ect... i think people are either A. too lazy to try something new, B. just plain scared, or C. creatures of habit.. i know old habits die hard. in this case, it sucks
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Re: Baseball Forecaster 2012

Postby Cream » Sat Jan 07, 2012 8:41 am

carter wrote:
jbird669 wrote:I can't believe people still hold a draft, and not an auction, in fantasy baseball. Much better format to acquire players and much more fun IMO.


I can't believe it either.. once i tried auction, i never wanted to go back. its like the difference between playing checkers and chess - more strategy, more skill, more fun, ect... i think people are either A. too lazy to try something new, B. just plain scared, or C. creatures of habit.. i know old habits die hard. in this case, it sucks


The other drawback to auctions is that the drafts just take a long time to complete. Not saying that I don't prefer auction, but sometimes a nice speedy snake draft is all that's needed.
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Re: Baseball Forecaster 2012

Postby ensanimal » Sat Jan 07, 2012 12:14 pm

carter wrote:
jbird669 wrote:I can't believe people still hold a draft, and not an auction, in fantasy baseball. Much better format to acquire players and much more fun IMO.


I can't believe it either.. once i tried auction, i never wanted to go back. its like the difference between playing checkers and chess - more strategy, more skill, more fun, ect... i think people are either A. too lazy to try something new, B. just plain scared, or C. creatures of habit.. i know old habits die hard. in this case, it sucks



Both are completely different animals. I enjoy doing both, but not one more than the other.
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Re: Baseball Forecaster 2012

Postby Pochucker » Sat Jan 07, 2012 1:26 pm

Everybody has their pet peeves --mine is some leagues still use OF instead of specific of spots.
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Re: Baseball Forecaster 2012

Postby bigh0rt » Sat Jan 07, 2012 2:08 pm

ensanimal wrote:
carter wrote:
jbird669 wrote:I can't believe people still hold a draft, and not an auction, in fantasy baseball. Much better format to acquire players and much more fun IMO.


I can't believe it either.. once i tried auction, i never wanted to go back. its like the difference between playing checkers and chess - more strategy, more skill, more fun, ect... i think people are either A. too lazy to try something new, B. just plain scared, or C. creatures of habit.. i know old habits die hard. in this case, it sucks



Both are completely different animals. I enjoy doing both, but not one more than the other.
This is where I'm at as well. I currently play in one draft and one auction league per year, and love the nuances of each.

What I find interesting is the widely accepted view that wherever a specific person's league 'draws the line' is where it ought to be. Guys who play in auctions can't believe guys who 'still' draft. Guys who play in auction keepers can't believe guys who 'still' redraft. Guys in contract leagues can't believe guys who 'still' only use keepers. Guys in 20 team leagues can't believe guys who 'still' play in 12 team leagues, and so on and so forth. You see these arguments made countless times each year, as if we all think we've figured out 'the' best way to play. Gimme a break.

There are infinite ways to increase strategy and skill to the game, and, whoever you are, I assure you there are players out there playing in leagues that require more of both. As for the fun portion, well, that's subjective, and really, to each their own. It's just silly to talk down to people who play a different style than you and resolve that they're either lazy or scared. I consider myself a very accomplished and knowledgeable player, and I find drafts to be much more enjoyable than auctions. I enjoy auctions, and preparing for them; but draft day is the most fun I have in the entire fantasy baseball season, and it has nothing with me being lazy or scared or a creature of habit.
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