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Keeper League with a Twist, need your opinion WHIR

Postby NY Knights » Sun Nov 20, 2011 11:50 am

Hello to All - I'm in a 14 team, mixed roto keeper, 6x6 (holds and OPS), with a 40 man roster and 25 players active daily. We're allowed to keep 7 major leaguers and 2 rookies. The twist is that for each player you keep, you must give up a draft pick 3 rounds earlier than the round when the player was drafted the prior year. Interesting approach, in that the players from the first 3 rounds the prior year all get thrown back into the pool, and no one player can stay with his owner forever.

So here's the main group I believe I have to choose from, and the round this coming draft that I will have to give up to keep them (obviously there are other players on my 40 man roster, but I think they all can be had at a later round than I'd have to give up). Pick your best 7 players and 2 rookies? Keep in mind that it's a 14 team league, so the 20th round ends with the 280th player, for example.

C Posey (13)
1B Hosmer (36)
1B Freeman (34)
2B Jemile Weeks (18)
OF Melky Cabrera (30)
OF Brantley (24)
OF McCutchen (4)
OF D.Brown (14)

SP Pineda (35)
SP Chacin (22)
SP Dan Hudson (16)
SP Ian Kennedy (15)
SP Luebke (18)
RP Kimbrel (11)
RP Feliz (10)
RP K.Jansen (29)

Rookies
OF B. Harper (37)
SP J.Turner (14)
RP J.Guerra (18)
RP E.Sanchez (10)

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Re: Keeper League with a Twist, need your opinion WHIR

Postby Urban Cohorts » Sun Nov 20, 2011 12:11 pm

Clear cut keepers for me-
1B Hosmer (36)
1B Freeman (34)
OF McCutchen (4)

SP Pineda (35)
SP Ian Kennedy (15)
RP Kimbrel (11)

The last spot is a toss up between-
C Posey (13)
SP Dan Hudson (16)

You have a highly talented catcher coming off of a broken leg with good value in the 13th. And in a 14 team league, position scarcity plays a slightly bigger role than a standard 12. Hudson in the 16th is good value as well. I think he is very talented, though the other 2 SP keepers look like better deals. And Hudson is coming off a year where he had a massive IP spike. That isn't a good thing. When do you have to make the choice by? If come spring, Posey looks healthy, I would take him.


Rookies-
OF B. Harper (37) - Can't go wrong taking him for a 37th round pick. No risk, all reward.

After him, I don't like any of these options if you have to give up said round draft pick. So I would go with Guerra in the 18th. Easiest pick to give up and he has some closing experience. Turner is garbage at round 14 and Sanchez is tough to keep at round 10.
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Re: Keeper League with a Twist, need your opinion WHIR

Postby raiders_umpire » Sun Nov 20, 2011 12:17 pm

C Posey (13)
1B Hosmer (36)
1B Freeman (34)
OF McCutchen (4)

SP Pineda (35)
SP Dan Hudson (16)
SP Ian Kennedy (15)
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Re: Keeper League with a Twist, need your opinion WHIR

Postby Element » Sun Nov 20, 2011 4:49 pm

raiders_umpire wrote:C Posey (13)
1B Hosmer (36)
1B Freeman (34)
OF McCutchen (4)

SP Pineda (35)
SP Dan Hudson (16)
SP Ian Kennedy (15)


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Re: Keeper League with a Twist, need your opinion WHIR

Postby lane_anasazi2 » Sun Nov 20, 2011 5:46 pm

raiders_umpire wrote:C Posey (13)
1B Hosmer (36)
1B Freeman (34)
OF McCutchen (4)

SP Pineda (35)
SP Dan Hudson (16)
SP Ian Kennedy (15)


Yep. And take Harper and Turner with the rookie spots. Open and shut.
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Re: Keeper League with a Twist, need your opinion WHIR

Postby LordMattius » Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:13 pm

C Posey (13)
1B Hosmer (36)
1B Freeman (34)
OF McCutchen (4)

SP Pineda (35)
SP Dan Hudson (16)
SP Ian Kennedy (15)
RP Kimbrel (11)

Rookies
OF B. Harper (37)
RP J.Guerra (18)
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Re: Keeper League with a Twist, need your opinion WHIR

Postby lane_anasazi2 » Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:42 pm

LordMattius wrote:C Posey (13)
1B Hosmer (36)
1B Freeman (34)
OF McCutchen (4)

SP Pineda (35)
SP Dan Hudson (16)
SP Ian Kennedy (15)
RP Kimbrel (11)

Rookies
OF B. Harper (37)
RP J.Guerra (18)


That's 8 keepers, not 7. And I'd really, really REALLY like to hear your reason for taking Guerra over Turner.
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Re: Keeper League with a Twist, need your opinion WHIR

Postby Dodgerbluesc » Sun Nov 20, 2011 7:53 pm

Hosmer, Freeman, Mccutchen and Pineda are definites to me. If you play two catchers so is Posey. I think you gotta keep Kimbrel too although you can always find saves off the wire so maybe shop him around. He is a stud though and probably the best closer option in the biz, just feel that the 11th round for a closer is steep.

I'm not sold on Kennedy so I would try to shop him. Same as with Kimbrel though, if you cant move him you gotta keep him. Toss up between Hudson and Chacin. From watching them both quite a bit Chacin is just nastier, although I expect Hudson to have a very good 2012.

I would go Harper and Turner for rookies. If come spring Jansen hasn't been given the closers role keep Guerra over Turner - also gives you more flexibility in dealing Kimbrel.

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Re: Keeper League with a Twist, need your opinion WHIR

Postby Urban Cohorts » Sun Nov 20, 2011 8:07 pm

lane_anasazi2 wrote:And I'd really, really REALLY like to hear your reason for taking Guerra over Turner.


Because he would have to give up a 14th round pick for a prospect with limited MLB experience. Guerra actually was a decent closer for the LAD and comes at an 18th round pick. Given that Guerra isn't a lock for the closer role, but he will have a shot. And worst case scenario, he becomes the setup man and gets you holds. With so much SP talent on the team, I would rather keep Guerra.

Dodgerbluesc wrote:I'm not sold on Kennedy so I would try to shop him.


I disagree completely. In my mind, getting Kennedy as a 15th round pick is solid gold. Kennedy improved in almost every aspect this season. His K/9 increased, his BB/9 dramatically decreased, his GB% went up, he allowed less HRs, and he logged more innings without getting injured. And a "luck stat"- (BABIP) went up from .256 (2010) to .270 (2011), so I don't see his breakout due to luck. His strand rate was also about average. And to top things off, he is going to be 27! Prime years ahead.

The only downside was his record. He obviously has a slim chance of repeating a 21-4 W-L record. But this guy can pitch.
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Re: Keeper League with a Twist, need your opinion WHIR

Postby Dodgerbluesc » Sun Nov 20, 2011 8:09 pm

By the way, AMAZING job in rounds 37 - 40 last year!!! Freeman, Pineda, Hosmer and Harper?!? Are you kidding me! Your league mates should be ashamed.
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