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Keeper Help - Pick 8

Postby MadHatterBlues » Thu Nov 03, 2011 8:10 am

Hello all!

Looking for some assistance in choosing 8 keepers for next year. Its a 12 team league playing 6x6 (with OBP and Holds). I need to pick 8 of the following:

Hanley Ramirez
Dustin Pedroia
Joe Mauer
Buster Posey
Eric Hosmer
Jason Heyward
Nelson Cruz
Desmond Jennings
Mike Moustakas

Jeremy Hellickson
Mat Latos
Michael Pineda
Justin Masterson

Some are obvious picks, but i'm struggling to find a balance that i'm happy with. Any and all thoughts welcomed!
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Re: Keeper Help - Pick 8

Postby Mace27 » Thu Nov 03, 2011 8:48 am

I guess I'd go:

Hanley Ramirez
Dustin Pedroia

Joe Mauer
Buster Posey
Eric Hosmer
Jason Heyward
Nelson Cruz
Desmond Jennings

Mike Moustakas

Jeremy Hellickson
Mat Latos
Michael Pineda
Justin Masterson

And then look to deal either Posey or Mauer. When healthy, Mauer has the best OBP in the league. Keep two of the top four or five fantasy catchers, then spin one for pitching, picks, etc. There are some real tough calls on a couple of those guys. I don't think you can really go wrong with those 2nd tier guys.
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Re: Keeper Help - Pick 8

Postby converge241 » Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:25 am

MadHatterBlues wrote:Hanley Ramirez ;-D
Dustin Pedroia ;-D
Joe Mauer
Buster Posey ;-D
Eric Hosmer ;-D
Jason Heyward ;-D
Nelson Cruz ;-D
Desmond Jennings ;-D
Mike Moustakas

Jeremy Hellickson
Mat Latos
Michael Pineda ;-D
Justin Masterson

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Re: Keeper Help - Pick 8

Postby MaudDib » Thu Nov 03, 2011 9:45 am

MadHatterBlues wrote:Hanley Ramirez ;-D
Dustin Pedroia ;-D
Joe Mauer
Buster Posey ;-D
Eric Hosmer ;-D
Jason Heyward ;-D
Nelson Cruz ;-D
Desmond Jennings ;-D
Mike Moustakas

Jeremy Hellickson
Mat Latos ;-D
Michael Pineda
Justin Masterson


Kind of a tough one at the bottom. I like Pineda, Latos and Hellickson and I am not really that big on Cruz or Jennings (just yet) so it really comes down to what you are more likely to get in the draft. Does your league usually keep more SP or more hitters? If they usually lock down SP, then i would try and keep at least one more SP and draft hitters if not then do something like this.

I also think it is pretty close between Pineda and Latos. Latos showed that last year wasn't a fluke and expect him to take another step forward where as with Pineda, I would like to see it again before I draft him above other pretty good SP.
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Re: Keeper Help - Pick 8

Postby Urban Cohorts » Thu Nov 03, 2011 10:33 am

Definite Keepers

1) Hanley Ramirez - SS is thin, should rebound somewhat
2) Dustin Pedroia - Best or 2nd best 2B
3) Eric Hosmer - Incredibly high upside 1B
4) Jason Heyward - Incredibly high upside OF
5) Desmond Jennings - Ditto to Heyward but less established
6) Mat Latos - Should be an elite SP, best of the bunch you have listed IMO and by a good margin
7) Michael Pineda - Would make my list. Has only been good for a year, plays for a poor team, but it looks like SEA is handling him perfectly (not too many IP). High upside, though I do like Latos more.

Definite Cuts

Mike Moustakas - Hasn't shown anything yet
Justin Masterson - Not in the same class as the rest IMO
Jeremy Hellickson - Has a lot of talent but pitches in the AL East (bad for H2H leagues) and you have 2 better SP keeper options IMO

Nelson Cruz - No way do I keep him in an OBP league and he is always good for missing some time. The only reason I would consider keeping him is if I could trade him for someone right out of the gate. Inquire with other guys in the league and see if they are interested then trade him.

Tough Choice

Joe Mauer vs. Buster Posey - I HATE to keep catchers. That said, Mauer has been a top C with a top OBP for years. Mauer did not perform terribly when he came back from injury and he also hits in what looks like a slightly better lineup than SF. Posey on the other hand, sustained a significant injury for a catcher (a broken leg) and did not play at all following that. He hits in a worse lineup and is still young and unproven. I do not believe he is automatically a top 5 catcher (he is no Carlos Santana IMO). My best guess would be that Posey only gets a standard amount of AB for a catcher (limited starts at 1B to prevent wearing out their young franchise player a year after major injury). Mauer will get more AB as he can play 1B AND at DH. Posey does offer good upside, but he has more question marks than Mauer. So I would go with Mauer.
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Re: Keeper Help - Pick 8

Postby Pogotheostrich » Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:01 am

I wouldn't keep 2 catchers so I'd look into making a trade. Cruz plus Mauer or Posey could bring a nice player back.

If I had to choose right now:
Hanley Ramirez
Dustin Pedroia
Joe Mauer
Eric Hosmer
Jason Heyward
Nelson Cruz
Desmond Jennings
Michael Pineda
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Re: Keeper Help - Pick 8

Postby RedHopeful » Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:03 am

converge241 wrote:Hanley Ramirez ;-D
Dustin Pedroia ;-D
Buster Posey ;-D
Eric Hosmer ;-D
Jason Heyward ;-D
Nelson Cruz ;-D
Desmond Jennings ;-D
Michael Pineda ;-D

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Re: Keeper Help - Pick 8

Postby MaudDib » Thu Nov 03, 2011 11:54 am

Urban Cohorts wrote:Definite Keepers

1) Hanley Ramirez - SS is thin, should rebound somewhat
2) Dustin Pedroia - Best or 2nd best 2B
3) Eric Hosmer - Incredibly high upside 1B
4) Jason Heyward - Incredibly high upside OF
5) Desmond Jennings - Ditto to Heyward but less established
6) Mat Latos - Should be an elite SP, best of the bunch you have listed IMO and by a good margin
7) Michael Pineda - Would make my list. Has only been good for a year, plays for a poor team, but it looks like SEA is handling him perfectly (not too many IP). High upside, though I do like Latos more.

Definite Cuts

Mike Moustakas - Hasn't shown anything yet
Justin Masterson - Not in the same class as the rest IMO
Jeremy Hellickson - Has a lot of talent but pitches in the AL East (bad for H2H leagues) and you have 2 better SP keeper options IMO

Nelson Cruz - No way do I keep him in an OBP league and he is always good for missing some time. The only reason I would consider keeping him is if I could trade him for someone right out of the gate. Inquire with other guys in the league and see if they are interested then trade him.

Tough Choice

Joe Mauer vs. Buster Posey - I HATE to keep catchers. That said, Mauer has been a top C with a top OBP for years. Mauer did not perform terribly when he came back from injury and he also hits in what looks like a slightly better lineup than SF. Posey on the other hand, sustained a significant injury for a catcher (a broken leg) and did not play at all following that. He hits in a worse lineup and is still young and unproven. I do not believe he is automatically a top 5 catcher (he is no Carlos Santana IMO). My best guess would be that Posey only gets a standard amount of AB for a catcher (limited starts at 1B to prevent wearing out their young franchise player a year after major injury). Mauer will get more AB as he can play 1B AND at DH. Posey does offer good upside, but he has more question marks than Mauer. So I would go with Mauer.


Agreed about Cruz. He would be the guy I would cut if you were to keep another SP.

Forgot all about Posey's injury and there is a lot of concern about how he recovers from that. The longer you can wait to make this decision the better. I am not sold on Mauer either so maybe you keep Latos over Posey but again I would try and wait until Spring Training and see what that status of Posey is then.
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Re: Keeper Help - Pick 8

Postby raiders_umpire » Thu Nov 03, 2011 7:19 pm

Hanley Ramirez
Dustin Pedroia
Joe Mauer
Eric Hosmer
Jason Heyward
Nelson Cruz
Desmond Jennings

Mat Latos
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Re: Keeper Help - Pick 8

Postby davidmarver » Fri Nov 04, 2011 3:57 am

Mauer gains a lot of value in this format. In order of value for 2012, IMO:

Dustin Pedroia
Hanley Ramirez
Joe Mauer
Desmond Jennings
Michael Pineda
Eric Hosmer
Mat Latos
Jason Heyward
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