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Re: RIP Steve Jobs

Postby StlSluggers » Thu Oct 06, 2011 2:25 pm

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Re: RIP Steve Jobs

Postby The Artful Dodger » Thu Oct 06, 2011 2:42 pm

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The Artful Dodger wrote:There's this romantic image of entrepreneurs toiling night and day building the next big thing in their garages over every detail, overcoming all the odds by a combination of determination, grit, and skill to be successful...


i think the guy in the garage doing all the work was woz and not jobs.
jobs was a classic narcissist and manipulated people very well. that's what he did with steve wozniak.


To be clear, Wozniak created the Apple I but he and Jobs worked on the Apple II. The hardware/software work was designed by Woz while Jobs provided the product input and marketing work. However, Jobs was more influential in the development of the Mac line. Woz is probably the best and most influential hacker, but Jobs was the perfect complement to that and much of Apple's future success hinged on his product management philosophy. (That said, history hasn't treated Woz as well as Jobs, at least in the mainstream limelight.)

If anything, Wozniak's superior technical proficiency highlights why Jobs is a classic entrepreneur. He wasn't particularly great in one or two things (let alone to be a computing genius like Woz), but was good/very good in a wide range of expertise: technical, product, sales, management, etc.
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Re: RIP Steve Jobs

Postby Tavish » Thu Oct 06, 2011 3:00 pm

Jobs biggest asset always seemed to be his ability to find that next market for consumer electronics and take what has been done and push it to the next level. I wouldn't call any the big Apple products true innovations (the iPhone being probably the closest). It definitely takes some great engineers in the mold of Woz to create these devices, but having Jobs' vision on what those devices should be was incredibly brilliant.
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Re: RIP Steve Jobs

Postby RedHopeful » Thu Oct 06, 2011 3:16 pm

Mookie4ever wrote:Funny that a guy who gave absolutely nothing to charity is so beloved.
Even the articles about his lack of philanthropy and the company's lack of community involvement all speculate that he donates anonymously.

When I discovered this, it really surprised me too. While Gates & Mircrosoft are so adamant about charitable givings, Apple does absolutely nothing? Unsure what to believe - Apple/Jobs donated anonymously to, at yet another turn, remain more classy than Gates or they are a bunch of ideological anti-poverty campaigners advocating world wealth redistribution. :-?
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Re: RIP Steve Jobs

Postby lastingsgriller » Thu Oct 06, 2011 3:36 pm

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Re: RIP Steve Jobs

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Re: RIP Steve Jobs

Postby wrveres » Thu Oct 06, 2011 11:22 pm


Solid thread. The stuff about his wife and daughter, i didn't know. There was lots of stuff about the guy i didn't know im finding out, but i did know that his products were made in Chinese work camps, and i always found it interesting that the world put him on a pedestal.
Even more so now. :-o

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Re: RIP Steve Jobs

Postby The Artful Dodger » Fri Oct 07, 2011 12:42 am

I'm not that surprised about Jobs being perceived as a demigod. The reaction to his passing is akin to when he resigned several weeks ago, only much sadder (understandably).

Honestly, I don't really see how this worship of Jobs is all that different from other figures who have been idolized in the past (i.e. Elvis, John Lennon). People are just brought up as predisposed suckers for the cult of personality.
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Re: RIP Steve Jobs

Postby RedHopeful » Fri Oct 07, 2011 9:47 am

Tavish wrote:Image

There is an interesting story behind this as well.
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Re: RIP Steve Jobs

Postby StlSluggers » Fri Oct 07, 2011 1:12 pm


this

sad he died, particularly so young
but the guy was more l. ron hubbard than albert einstein
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