Hope this is finally Craig's breakthrough Bond movie. Haven't been impressed with him nor the writing of the first two. I know they've intentionally made the Craig Bond a much darker character and the movies itself more violent in nature but it hasn't worked for me up to this point.
RedHopeful wrote:Hope this is finally Craig's breakthrough Bond movie. Haven't been impressed with him nor the writing of the first two. I know they've intentionally made the Craig Bond a much darker character and the movies itself more violent in nature but it hasn't worked for me up to this point.
I was far from impressed with Quantum of Solace. It was such a overly complicated and contrived story, full of weird cinematography for the action scenes.
I loved Casino Royale, definitely a top 5 Bond film for me. CR was a nontraditional reboot for the Bond film series and it's somewhat closer to the "darker", more human Bond portrayed in the Bond books (Daniel Craig's portrayal is somewhat closer to the Bond character Ian Fleming had in mind). Where CR excelled in was it displayed that delicate balance between the more nuanced Bond character, less formulaic storylines and the escapist qualities of the generic Bond film.
RedHopeful wrote:Hope this is finally Craig's breakthrough Bond movie. Haven't been impressed with him nor the writing of the first two. I know they've intentionally made the Craig Bond a much darker character and the movies itself more violent in nature but it hasn't worked for me up to this point.
uhm casino royale was one of the best bond movies in recent times... you did not like it?
RedHopeful wrote:Hope this is finally Craig's breakthrough Bond movie. Haven't been impressed with him nor the writing of the first two. I know they've intentionally made the Craig Bond a much darker character and the movies itself more violent in nature but it hasn't worked for me up to this point.
I was far from impressed with Quantum of Solace. It was such a overly complicated and contrived story, full of weird cinematography for the action scenes.
I loved Casino Royale, definitely a top 5 Bond film for me. CR was a nontraditional reboot for the Bond film series and it's somewhat closer to the "darker", more human Bond portrayed in the Bond books (Daniel Craig's portrayal is somewhat closer to the Bond character Ian Fleming had in mind). Where CR excelled in was it displayed that delicate balance between the more nuanced Bond character, less formulaic storylines and the escapist qualities of the generic Bond film.
Interesting to know. Never read any of the books so I didn't know about how Casino Royale was a really good adaptation. It does change my perception a bit now but I can't help but still feel a loyalty to the charismatic, less serious Bonds of yesteryear. Simply grew up with that guy so obviously there was some attachment to that style of character. However, I will make a solid attempt to watch again w/o the skewed glasses.
RedHopeful wrote:Hope this is finally Craig's breakthrough Bond movie. Haven't been impressed with him nor the writing of the first two. I know they've intentionally made the Craig Bond a much darker character and the movies itself more violent in nature but it hasn't worked for me up to this point.
I was far from impressed with Quantum of Solace. It was such a overly complicated and contrived story, full of weird cinematography for the action scenes.
I loved Casino Royale, definitely a top 5 Bond film for me. CR was a nontraditional reboot for the Bond film series and it's somewhat closer to the "darker", more human Bond portrayed in the Bond books (Daniel Craig's portrayal is somewhat closer to the Bond character Ian Fleming had in mind). Where CR excelled in was it displayed that delicate balance between the more nuanced Bond character, less formulaic storylines and the escapist qualities of the generic Bond film.
Interesting to know. Never read any of the books so I didn't know about how Casino Royale was a really good adaptation. It does change my perception a bit now but I can't help but still feel a loyalty to the charismatic, less serious Bonds of yesteryear. Simply grew up with that guy so obviously there was some attachment to that style of character. However, I will make a solid attempt to watch again w/o the skewed glasses.
I've read the Bond books when I was a teenager, having seen most of the films before, and thought WTF initially (the first I read was The Man with the Golden Gun, I believe). I've come to love both the Bond books and films equally, but for different reasons. Moonraker happens to be my favorite book and no, you can't expect something that reads like a Star Wars wannabe film. From Russia With Love is up there, so with OHMSS and You Only Live Twice ranking high on my books list too.
FWIW, the first three Bond films... Dr. No, From Russia With Love, and Goldfinger are close to the source material to varying extents (FRWL is the most faithful). There are a number of considerable tweaks here and there (in fact, the beginning of Dr. No leaves off where FRWL ends, just rethink the FRWL film ending), but they're otherwise similar to the Bond books. So, even the Bonds of yesteryear were fairly serious. Also, consider that there have been a couple of reboots in the past predating Casino Royale, whenever the series sort of spiraled out of control into extreme unrealistic escapism. Off the top of my head, they are For Your Eyes Only, The Living Daylights (ushering the short-lived Dalton era), and Goldeneye (post-Cold War Bond and Pierce Brosnan era). It's worth mentioning that Licence to Kill still remains as the darkest Bond film, IMO.
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by AussieDodger » Sat Aug 20, 2011 11:57 pm 
From Russia With Love is up there, so with OHMSS and You Only Live Twice ranking high on my books list too.
