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Re: Is Carl Crawford the biggest non-injury related bust eve

Postby wrveres » Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:00 am

Tavish wrote:
wrveres wrote:
Bwanna wrote:No, that would be Barry Zito circa 2007.
this
Did anyone other than maybe the Giants GM expect anything out of Zito?
well his agent, but its not the point. I can't think of a bigger non injury bust than Zito. Maybe that Japanese Mets kid that died his hair blonde, but he wasn't paid nearly as much as Zito :-)
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Re: Is Carl Crawford the biggest non-injury related bust eve

Postby Bwanna » Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:46 am

urbanbreez wrote:you'd be hard pressed to find anything worse than Adam Dunn.

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CHICAGO—After his batting average slumped to a historically low .163 this week, White Sox DH Adam Dunn received an official notice from Major League Baseball Thursday informing him that he no longer met the minimum requirements to be labeled an official baseball player. "He's certainly allowed to continue playing baseball, but he cannot legally refer to himself as a 'baseball player,'" an MLB spokesperson said in a statement, adding that Dunn would now be called what the league refers to as a ‘baseball participant.’ “We are confident Adam will eventually regain his abilities. For now, however, we think it's best to disassociate his horrible hitting from the great game of baseball." When asked for comment, Dunn expressed relief and claimed that joining the ranks of players like Mike Cameron and Jorge Posada would at least take some pressure off of him.
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Re: Is Carl Crawford the biggest non-injury related bust eve

Postby Tavish » Tue Aug 16, 2011 9:47 am

wrveres wrote:
Tavish wrote:
wrveres wrote:this
Did anyone other than maybe the Giants GM expect anything out of Zito?
well his agent, but its not the point. I can't think of a bigger non injury bust than Zito. Maybe that Japanese Mets kid that died his hair blonde, but he wasn't paid nearly as much as Zito :-)

I don't think the point is necessarily the size of the contract, more so the expectation that people had for the player. If it is just contract size compared to production then guys like Schmidt and Pavano would both beat out Zito in terms of production vs pay. Hell Zito pitched more innings in his first season as a Giant (at basically league average) than either of those did over the life of their contract (at well below league average).
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Re: Is Carl Crawford the biggest non-injury related bust eve

Postby bigken117 » Tue Aug 16, 2011 10:55 am

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Re: Is Carl Crawford the biggest non-injury related bust eve

Postby CyboNinja » Wed Aug 17, 2011 6:48 pm

Bwanna wrote:
urbanbreez wrote:you'd be hard pressed to find anything worse than Adam Dunn.

http://www.onionsportsnetwork.com/artic ... d-a,21121/

With .163 Average, Adam Dunn No Longer Considered A Baseball Player
"He's certainly allowed to continue playing baseball, but he cannot legally refer to himself as a 'baseball player
Too f00kin funny!! :-b
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Re: Is Carl Crawford the biggest non-injury related bust eve

Postby GiantsFan14 » Thu Aug 18, 2011 1:32 am

Tavish wrote:
wrveres wrote:
Bwanna wrote:No, that would be Barry Zito circa 2007.
this

Did anyone other than maybe the Giants GM expect anything out of Zito?


nope, but who knows what sabean thought of zito. it was the higher ups (peter mcgowan) who had sabean sign him. wasn't his call.
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Re: Is Carl Crawford the biggest non-injury related bust eve

Postby wrveres » Thu Aug 18, 2011 6:15 am

Bwanna wrote:
urbanbreez wrote:you'd be hard pressed to find anything worse than Adam Dunn.

http://www.onionsportsnetwork.com/artic ... d-a,21121/

With .163 Average, Adam Dunn No Longer Considered A Baseball Player
thats just awesome. :-D :-D
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Re: Is Carl Crawford the biggest non-injury related bust eve

Postby Zito is God » Thu Aug 18, 2011 8:46 pm

I think the point is everyone who knows anything about baseball knew Zito was terribly overpaid. I personally am the biggest Zito fan you will ever find and I even thought he was overpaid because of the declining K rate, the back-to-back-to-back 200+ IP seasons and the age factor.

Crawford's expectations were a LOT different from fans and most people on this board than those for Zito. Zito was also never drafted in the 1st round.

(As a side note, Zito needs to regain some stuff to get to 200 wins. Chance at HoF with 200 W's, 1 Cy Young and 1 Ring?! :))
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Re: Is Carl Crawford the biggest non-injury related bust eve

Postby Y`s Guy » Fri Aug 19, 2011 9:18 am

I am actually playing JD Martinez in front of him. My 16-team H2H league where we activate 3 OF and 1 UT sees Crawford practically inactive all season. Freddie Freeman supplanted Crawdaaddy a long time ago. Martinez has since I traded Alex Gordon.

Its very sad to see my #1 pick drying up like this. I couldn't give him away at the deadline.
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Re: Is Carl Crawford the biggest non-injury related bust eve

Postby fuzzeemonkey » Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:39 pm

I traded Choo for Crawford early in the season. Crawford starting hitting well again and got a few sb's going. He then went on the DL and right when he got back I traded Crawford/Shields for Stanton/Hamels. So Crawford has worked out great for me in my dynasty league ;-D .
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