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Re: Is Carl Crawford the biggest non-injury related bust eve

Postby Guzman24 » Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:45 pm

urbanbreez wrote:you'd be hard pressed to find anything worse than Adam Dunn.


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I kept him over Reyes in my league that counts OBP and OPS thinking he'd post massive numbers in Chicago this year. :~( %-6
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Re: Is Carl Crawford the biggest non-injury related bust eve

Postby Skin Blues » Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:54 pm

Crawford is only 96 points below his career OPS. Hardly the biggest bust EVER. Not even remotely close to the worst of the 2011 first round picks. Albert Pujols is 143 points below his career OPS. Hanley Ramirez is 154 below. A-Rod: 103. David Wright: 102 points. Evan Longoria: 80. All of those guys also missed significant time with injuries, and with the exception of A-Rod, should be in the midst of their prime. Crawford isn't living up to expectations, but neither are most of the other first rounders.
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Re: Is Carl Crawford the biggest non-injury related bust eve

Postby mkultra » Mon Aug 15, 2011 4:16 pm

Why are you judging a speed guy like Crawford by his OPS? I'd be more concerned by 15 steals and a 75% success rate so far.
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Re: Is Carl Crawford the biggest non-injury related bust eve

Postby Skin Blues » Mon Aug 15, 2011 4:34 pm

He's not just a speed guy, he was one of the best hitters in the league last year, stolen bases aside. Even still, the likely reason for the lack of steals is that he's been dealing with injuries all season including a month on the DL with hamstring issues. That kinda goes against the "non-injury related bust" label.
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Re: Is Carl Crawford the biggest non-injury related bust eve

Postby kab21 » Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:29 pm

mkultra wrote:Why are you judging a speed guy like Crawford by his OPS? I'd be more concerned by 15 steals and a 75% success rate so far.


why are people calling Crawford a non-injury related bust when the reason you draft him is SB's? The reason you draft him in the first rd is that the rest of the stats should be very good. But he has been injured.
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Re: Is Carl Crawford the biggest non-injury related bust eve

Postby mkultra » Mon Aug 15, 2011 10:21 pm

Skin Blues wrote:He's not just a speed guy, he was one of the best hitters in the league last year, stolen bases aside. Even still, the likely reason for the lack of steals is that he's been dealing with injuries all season including a month on the DL with hamstring issues. That kinda goes against the "non-injury related bust" label.


Eh, take away the steals and he's a .300/15HR guy, which is nowhere near 1st round value. No, you were drafting the 45+ SB that went with it.

I also dispute that his DL stint is relevant here. He was sucking well before he went on it.
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Re: Is Carl Crawford the biggest non-injury related bust eve

Postby Bwanna » Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:37 pm

No, that would be Barry Zito circa 2007.
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Re: Is Carl Crawford the biggest non-injury related bust eve

Postby kab21 » Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:53 am

mkultra wrote:
Skin Blues wrote:He's not just a speed guy, he was one of the best hitters in the league last year, stolen bases aside. Even still, the likely reason for the lack of steals is that he's been dealing with injuries all season including a month on the DL with hamstring issues. That kinda goes against the "non-injury related bust" label.


Eh, take away the steals and he's a .300/15HR guy, which is nowhere near 1st round value. No, you were drafting the 45+ SB that went with it.

I also dispute that his DL stint is relevant here. He was sucking well before he went on it.


The entire Red Sox team was sucking for the first month of the season. Then Crawford had OPS's of .803 and .761 in May and June before he got injured. and he's hitting again in august. The problem is the SB's.
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Re: Is Carl Crawford the biggest non-injury related bust eve

Postby wrveres » Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:18 am

Bwanna wrote:No, that would be Barry Zito circa 2007.
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Re: Is Carl Crawford the biggest non-injury related bust eve

Postby Tavish » Tue Aug 16, 2011 8:41 am

wrveres wrote:
Bwanna wrote:No, that would be Barry Zito circa 2007.
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Did anyone other than maybe the Giants GM expect anything out of Zito?
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