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Postby Dan Lambskin » Thu Aug 11, 2011 8:53 am

so in one roto league i'm 2nd in WHIP (1.2159) yet 11th in ERA (3.959)
it doesn't seem like there should be that big of a disparity in the rankings. are my pitchers just getting unlucky and not stranding guys and/or giving up too many XBH?
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Re: Thoughts On Correlation Between ERA/WHIP?

Postby Skin Blues » Thu Aug 11, 2011 10:33 am

Maybe you just have a lot of pitchers with high ERA and low WHIP... there's a small correlation in general, but obviously some guys are prone to having one higher than the other. Do you have a lot of flyball pitchers? Guys that don't walk anybody but also don't K anybody? That could explain it.
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Re: Thoughts On Correlation Between ERA/WHIP?

Postby DbacksRback » Thu Aug 11, 2011 10:41 am

Skin Blues wrote:Maybe you just have a lot of pitchers with high ERA and low WHIP... there's a small correlation in general, but obviously some guys are prone to having one higher than the other. Do you have a lot of flyball pitchers? Guys that don't walk anybody but also don't K anybody? That could explain it.


This. Look at Jamie Moyer 2010:
Era of 4.84
WHIP of 1.10

Two don't seem to match up at all
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Re: Thoughts On Correlation Between ERA/WHIP?

Postby mkultra » Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:40 am

I honestly haven't looked at any of these stats across the league to see how they actually correlate, but I suspect that gaps between ERA and WHIP should be in line with a pitcher's strand rate. Don't ground ball pitchers also tend to give up more hits than fly ball pitchers?
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Re: Thoughts On Correlation Between ERA/WHIP?

Postby DbacksRback » Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:24 pm

mkultra wrote:I honestly haven't looked at any of these stats across the league to see how they actually correlate, but I suspect that gaps between ERA and WHIP should be in line with a pitcher's strand rate. Don't ground ball pitchers also tend to give up more hits than fly ball pitchers?


I would guess more hits but less HR's generally
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Re: Thoughts On Correlation Between ERA/WHIP?

Postby DbacksRback » Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:27 pm

mkultra wrote:I honestly haven't looked at any of these stats across the league to see how they actually correlate, but I suspect that gaps between ERA and WHIP should be in line with a pitcher's strand rate. Don't ground ball pitchers also tend to give up more hits than fly ball pitchers?


I would guess more hits but less HR's generally
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Re: Thoughts On Correlation Between ERA/WHIP?

Postby mkultra » Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:27 pm

DbacksRback wrote:
mkultra wrote:I honestly haven't looked at any of these stats across the league to see how they actually correlate, but I suspect that gaps between ERA and WHIP should be in line with a pitcher's strand rate. Don't ground ball pitchers also tend to give up more hits than fly ball pitchers?


I would guess more hits but less HR's generally


Obviously. :-?

I meant more in the context of wondering if ground ball pitchers tended toward a higher ERA/WHIP disparity.
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Re: Thoughts On Correlation Between ERA/WHIP?

Postby converge241 » Fri Aug 12, 2011 5:59 pm

A guy who's leading in one 10 team league I am in has a huge ERA/WHIP difference. And yes most of the time it will correlate but not always. Ex: 8 of the other 10 teams have the same standing in ERA/WHIP or like 1 off each way. The leader and another team have a gap, but the leader has a severe gap.

You tend to see some gaps the bigger the league gets, like I see a few gaps in the 14 team league I run nothing insane though.
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Re: Thoughts On Correlation Between ERA/WHIP?

Postby mt99808 » Sat Aug 13, 2011 11:25 am

I'm in a 12 team league. I'm 1st in k's, far and away 1st in k:BB (4.13), 2nd in WHIP (1.13) yet 7th in ERA (3.54).

I should take a look at the FIP/XFIP difference to ERA for my pitchers. I know Greinke is a huge difference without even looking.
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