If you're seriously contending this year d. wright is a huge upgrade over p. alvarez, but you've got beltre waiting... beltre or wright, whoever you pick, would be a sweet util player.
i think the beachy @ 19 is a great deal but you're a buyer not a seller.. so to speak.
you want to win now.. your trade should relfect this.
I just like the fact that Beachy pitches in the NL East and not the AL East like CJ Wilson does. Plus I like Beachy's keeper value way more then CJ's.
But I do think I should make this move and when Beltre comes back just put Wright or Beltre in my UTIL and start 3 out of Stubbs, Morse, Holliday, and Young in my OF based on their matchups.
Beachy's the keeper here. The Braves know what they're doing with bringing pitchers along, and he's shown some flashes of brilliance. Plus, as has already been mentioned, he's in a more pitcher-friendly division. I'd prefer Beachy over Wilson for a keeper for sure, especially with the price.
nyr199435 wrote:Beachy's the keeper here. The Braves know what they're doing with bringing pitchers along, and he's shown some flashes of brilliance. Plus, as has already been mentioned, he's in a more pitcher-friendly division. I'd prefer Beachy over Wilson for a keeper for sure, especially with the price.
Do you also think this is a good move for me to pick up David Wright?
in order to get back David Wright and a 21st round pick. CJ can be kept as a 15th rounder, and Beachy can be kept as a 19th rounder.
That's only a 4-round difference in "keepability". I'd lean towards keeping CJ and trading Beachy, but in my opinion you can't really lose here. You're picking up a white-hot David Wright who is in a Mets lineup that isn't actually that bad (Jose, Murph, Duda, etc...).
My thinking is that Wilson will do more for you the rest of the season than Beachy will, so if you're going all-in for this year you might want to consider Beachy/10th for Wright. However, you are right--I think you have enough pitching to handle the loss of EITHER of these two pieces...so why not keep the guy who could be better in the long run (Beachy)?
Very interesting trade you put together here. I think ultimately I give up CJ and a 9th to grab Wright. But I don't think you can go wrong either way. It all depends on how you are viewing this deal (that is, as an "all-in" in which case I want the better pitcher NOW, or a "well, I want to win the championship, but I don't want to miss out on someone who could be a stud").
CJ will never be a stud. Beachy could be a stud. Play it safe I think.
Edit: PS, I like how I reasoned my way through a change in opinion, haha. Good luck with the trade.
(In reference to an Aaron Hill for David Price swap)
twinkypoop wrote:
mpieco wrote: You're my new hero if that gets accepted.
mpieco wrote:Hey, sorry I didn't say anything before.
So my understanding of it is you either can offer
CJ Wilson/9th round pick
OR
Brandon Beachy/10th round pick
in order to get back David Wright and a 21st round pick. CJ can be kept as a 15th rounder, and Beachy can be kept as a 19th rounder.
That's only a 4-round difference in "keepability". I'd lean towards keeping CJ and trading Beachy, but in my opinion you can't really lose here. You're picking up a white-hot David Wright who is in a Mets lineup that isn't actually that bad (Jose, Murph, Duda, etc...).
My thinking is that Wilson will do more for you the rest of the season than Beachy will, so if you're going all-in for this year you might want to consider Beachy/10th for Wright. However, you are right--I think you have enough pitching to handle the loss of EITHER of these two pieces...so why not keep the guy who could be better in the long run (Beachy)?
Very interesting trade you put together here. I think ultimately I give up CJ and a 9th to grab Wright. But I don't think you can go wrong either way. It all depends on how you are viewing this deal (that is, as an "all-in" in which case I want the better pitcher NOW, or a "well, I want to win the championship, but I don't want to miss out on someone who could be a stud").
CJ will never be a stud. Beachy could be a stud. Play it safe I think.
Edit: PS, I like how I reasoned my way through a change in opinion, haha. Good luck with the trade.
Haha yeah I like how you did that too, thanks for the response though. Thats exactly what I was looking to hear. I made the move and will have Wright in my lineup by Tuesday as long as no one vetoes.
ATLbraves wrote:bump, deal is in place and he has agreed to it. So just want some last minute opinions before I send it. Just to make sure I am making the right move.
well like everyone said depends on what you want to do
want to go over the top? trade for wright and win it all this year
for long term i like beachy as well
i think while wilson has done well for almost two years, unless he goes to NL team next year, not sure i like him long term as hes like 32 already and maybe he goes to AL East and implodes