Norway's One Man Wrecking Crew

[WaCougMBS]

I think in this particular case, with a sane person wanting so desperately to get his message validated, being declared insane is probably the last punishment in the world he would choose for himself. He won't be executed and martyred and the powers that be refuse to validate his ramblings with the trial of a legally sane person. In my opinion, he is most certainly not crazy (just disenfranchised) and I can think of nothing, not even execution, worse than spending the rest of my days around crazy people and trying to convince others that I'm not one of them.

So why do you keep playing Mafia?

[urbanbreez]

I think in this particular case, with a sane person wanting so desperately to get his message validated, being declared insane is probably the last punishment in the world he would choose for himself. He won't be executed and martyred and the powers that be refuse to validate his ramblings with the trial of a legally sane person. In my opinion, he is most certainly not crazy (just disenfranchised) and I can think of nothing, not even execution, worse than spending the rest of my days around crazy people and trying to convince others that I'm not one of them.

So why do you keep playing Mafia?

I must be some type of masochist.

[wrveres]

Beautiful. We should try that in the US. We'll give everybody laptops and big screens and there own house. Let em go swimming, and play tennis. Again, i say we set this up in the heart of San Francisco. All 3 million of em.

I thought you people were against spending.

If we had infinite money, I would TOTALLY be up for it. It would be glorious to be able to afford a Norway-style rehabilitation-centered prison system that would actually churn out responsible citizens instead of more criminals.

We do have infinite money, no? We have a press. How can we not have infinite money?
Worst case scenario, we can just take it from the people who earned it. eff em.

But i like your idea here. You start the petition, I'll sign it. Hell I'll even market it. Let gets this ball rolling. Dont be that lazy guy you hate so much!!

The petition must include of course .. Murder. It doesn't have to include murdering kids, but it sure would help bring some attention to the cause. Gotta pull on those sheeps heart strings, Ya know...

But its gotta be something along the lines of ..
"If you commit murder ..
You get a house in San Francisco.
A laptop.
A big screen TV.
Tennis courts, and a lake to swim in.
And weekly visits from Stuart Smalley.

They do it in Norway, so it must be good."

You start that petition, and I'll sign.

[AussieDodger]

But its gotta be something along the lines of ..
"If you commit murder ..
You get a house in San Francisco.
A laptop.
A big screen TV.
Tennis courts, and a lake to swim in.

Sounds good. Where do I sign, and who do I kill?

[urbanbreez]

What the hell is a Stewart Smalley?

edit: oh that guy? That guy! What's the penalty for killing Stewart Smalley?

[TheRock]

What the hell is a Stewart Smalley?

edit: oh that guy? That guy! What's the penalty for killing Stewart Smalley?

I like what wrveres is cooking here.

Penalty? There is no penalty, you're still thinking in that backwards retribution-based mindset. Now that we're enlightened, like Norway, we rehabilitate you. Meaning we take more money from the family of the whoever you killed and buy you a jetski.

[Curtis Pride]

As long as whatever we do, we don't dare question any crime and punishment policies in the U.S.

Because everyone knows that if you dare question how the police, justice system, or military conducts themselves, you hate America.

[zepfan]

Indeed, critical thinking is the enemy for a lot of people.

[urbanbreez]

Meanwhile in Murica: Bernard Madoff (the worst white collar criminal in the history of the world) ruined the lives of thousands even driving some to commit suicide (like the Mets) and made a substantial (negative) impact on the US and global economy - sits in a resort style "prison" and plays bocce ball on neatly manicured lawns for his leisure. Clearly, we have the best penal system ever and those Nordic softies are such pansies.

[Art Vandelay]

The soft punishment must really be a lack of a deterrent for murder. According to the graph here, Norway's murder rate is only 12th lowest in the world. I bet if they had capital punishment they could get it even lower than countries like Monaco, Iceland, Morocco, Burkina Faso and Brunei. The US, according to the list, ranks 89th out of 189, among the worst of developed nations.