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Postby kidsilk » Thu Jul 21, 2011 7:38 pm

13 team league, NL-only, roto style, keeper league, 29 man rosters, 5x5 cats(with Runs Produced replacing RBI for hitters)

I am currently in 6th place with 56.5 points but only 14.5 points from my pitching staff. I am second(just two behind first place team) in SB with about a 16 SB lead on third place team and second in runs produced with a 27 point lead on 3rd place. I need my pitching to improve for me to move up into the money which is definitely attainable as I am only 3 points from 5th and 7 points from 4th place.

The trades I have been offered are:

Antonio Bastardo and Carlos Marmol for Michael Bourn

or

Furcal, Leo Nunez, Maholm, Hammel for Bourn and Luebke

My Team:

C-Hanigan
C-Navarro
1B-Overbay
2B-Bonifacio
3B-McGehee
SS-A. Gonzalez
MI-DeWitt
CR-Wood
OF-Bourn
OF-Ethier
OF-CarGo
OF-Hawpe
OF-Roberts
UTI-Morgan
BN-Barney

P-Bills
P-Gorzalanney
P-David Hernandez
P-Latos
P-Luebke
P-Hudson
P-JImenez
P-Kuo
P-Lilly
DL-Cashner
DL-Oswalt
DL-Medlen
DL-Padilla
DL-Broxton

Should I make one of these moves or a move to improve my pitching or wait it out for my pitching to pick it up and keep Bourn? I'm 8th in ERA, 11th in saves but only 4 behind the next guy and only 10 saves from moving up 5 spots, 10th in WHIP and 13th in WINS. What do you guys think? Leave your links and I will help you out. Thanks.
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Re: Do one of these deals to give up Bourn?(WHIR)

Postby coldfusion » Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:56 am

Think of the first deal as just Marmol for Bourn, since Bastardo's going to lose his closer job once Madson is ready to role. That said, you'd really just be trading steals for saves, so if you lacking in the saves department go ahead and pull the trigger. The second deal doesn't help you at all, and really the pitchers you've been offered are table scraps, while you give up a very good pitcher in Luebke. Help with mine? viewtopic.php?f=26&t=435367
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Re: Do one of these deals to give up Bourn?(WHIR)

Postby kidsilk » Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:28 pm

Anyone else? I need some more opinions. I am thinking about asking for another pitcher like Brett Meyers or RA Dickey from the guy offering Marmol to go along with him instead of Bastardo. Unless you guys think the deal with Bastardo is good? I could also ask for Mike Adams or Heath Bell. What do you guys think about these offers?
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Re: Do one of these deals to give up Bourn?(WHIR)

Postby jjrup » Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:33 pm

I'm a Phillies fan and Wednesday Manuel when asked about Bastardo losing his job to Madson said "I like Bastardo can do pretty much whatever he wants with the way he's pitching"
The speculation is it is now his job to lose. If that's the case, I do the deal. Take it for what it's worth. Here's one link http://prosportsdaily.com/forums/showthread.php?t=636049

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Re: Do one of these deals to give up Bourn?(WHIR)

Postby mchapple78 » Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:55 pm

Thanks for help on mine!

I'd say the first deal if you can spare some steals...

YOur ptiching isn't horrible and i think with Luebke moving to a SP he'll be able to help you make up ground.
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Re: Do one of these deals to give up Bourn?(WHIR)

Postby kidsilk » Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:57 pm

Well, I am in second place in steals only by one steal and 17 ahead of the guy in 3rd place. SO, I am pretty ok in steals. But, of course a lot of that is due to Bourn. Any more opinions?
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Re: Do one of these deals to give up Bourn?(WHIR)

Postby hartmtown » Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:06 pm

Appreciate the help.

I don't really love either of these deals to be honest. I definitely wouldn't give up Luebke and Bourn for the guys offered. The first deal is better but I agree you need another pitcher instead of or in addition to Bastardo.

I'd make the first deal if it really gives you some peace of mind, but honestly I'd see what else I could get for Bourn. His steals are too elite for a mediocre haul.
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Re: Do one of these deals to give up Bourn?(WHIR)

Postby MadDog36 » Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:10 pm

Antonio Bastardo and Carlos Marmol ;-D
Worst case, Bastard splits saves. This will help you immensely. You have Morgan who can go into that slot. Move Barney to UTL and stash the extra arm on your bench.
Drop Kris Medlen for something what is available? I doubt he'll be back.
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Re: Do one of these deals to give up Bourn?(WHIR)

Postby saemick » Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:02 pm

like the others said, the 2nd deal doesn't help you at all, so focus on the 1st deal.

that being said, i really think Bastardo will NOT keep the closers role even though Manuel said he'd be the guy for now. Lidge was just recalled and Madson will be back soon. That being said, i guess it's all a matter of need.

If you feel that your lead in SB's will hold up w/o Bourn, then you have to pull the trigger, but if you're not that confident, I would look to bolster your staff elsewhere

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Re: Do one of these deals to give up Bourn?(WHIR)

Postby theblemishedone » Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:08 pm

hartmtown wrote:Appreciate the help.

I don't really love either of these deals to be honest. I definitely wouldn't give up Luebke and Bourn for the guys offered. The first deal is better but I agree you need another pitcher instead of or in addition to Bastardo.

I'd make the first deal if it really gives you some peace of mind, but honestly I'd see what else I could get for Bourn. His steals are too elite for a mediocre haul.


+1. I agree with the poster above. I would hold off to see if you can do better for Bourne.
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