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Re: how would you rank keeper SP's for next season?

Postby Neato Torpedo » Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:07 pm

Ah crap, forgot Wainwright. Assuming no setbacks, I'd put him comfortably in the middle of Tier 3. TJ recovery time has been sliced by a third in recent years so 13 months is plenty of time to get back to full strength. I'd have no problems taking him right there around the Price/Lester area.
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Re: how would you rank keeper SP's for next season?

Postby thedude » Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:28 pm

lastingsgriller wrote:Strasburg apperently hit 95 on the gun recently.


I heard that, and it is nice and all, but I hope he is throwing harder than 95 by next season. He used to hit 100, which he used to set up his 90 MPH change up.
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Re: how would you rank keeper SP's for next season?

Postby Neato Torpedo » Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:41 pm

thedude wrote:
lastingsgriller wrote:Strasburg apperently hit 95 on the gun recently.


I heard that, and it is nice and all, but I hope he is throwing harder than 95 by next season. He used to hit 100, which he used to set up his 90 MPH change up.

It's been only 9 months lol. 9 short months and he's probably an above average starter if he returns today.
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Re: how would you rank keeper SP's for next season?

Postby thedude » Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:10 pm

Neato Torpedo wrote:
thedude wrote:
lastingsgriller wrote:Strasburg apperently hit 95 on the gun recently.


I heard that, and it is nice and all, but I hope he is throwing harder than 95 by next season. He used to hit 100, which he used to set up his 90 MPH change up.

It's been only 9 months lol. 9 short months and he's probably an above average starter if he returns today.


Yes it has been only 9 months, but let's not put the cart before the horse, count the chickens before they're hatched, let the tail wag the dog, close the barn door after the horse is gone, and so on...
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Re: how would you rank keeper SP's for next season?

Postby Neato Torpedo » Wed Jul 20, 2011 10:22 pm

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Re: how would you rank keeper SP's for next season?

Postby markj11 » Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:36 am

DbacksRback wrote:
markj11 wrote:
bayside wrote:i agree on that part.
but i definitely WONT be shocked if he turns out to perform as a top 10 SP next year when all is said and done.


He's on schedule to be back in September so we'll get to see him before deciding where he'll go next year. In my keep 5 league with 3 dl spots, I drafted him as my last pick. That league uses k/bb and k/9 with along with the other sp cats. 5.41K/BB and 12.18K/9 in his first 90 innings, it might be a risk I have to take.


Reason I dont see him top 10 is he will have an innings limit. Jordan Zimmerman had one of 160 innings this year even with pitching from the end of august to the end of the season.


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Re: how would you rank keeper SP's for next season?

Postby lastingsgriller » Thu Jul 21, 2011 11:49 am

anyone know the estimated timetable on Strasburg? any chance he will be back for fantasy playoffs?

I sure would love to have him instead of Ricky effing Nolasco.
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Re: how would you rank keeper SP's for next season?

Postby Neato Torpedo » Thu Jul 21, 2011 2:15 pm

DbacksRback wrote:
markj11 wrote:
bayside wrote:i agree on that part.
but i definitely WONT be shocked if he turns out to perform as a top 10 SP next year when all is said and done.


He's on schedule to be back in September so we'll get to see him before deciding where he'll go next year. In my keep 5 league with 3 dl spots, I drafted him as my last pick. That league uses k/bb and k/9 with along with the other sp cats. 5.41K/BB and 12.18K/9 in his first 90 innings, it might be a risk I have to take.


Reason I dont see him top 10 is he will have an innings limit. Jordan Zimmerman had one of 160 innings this year even with pitching from the end of august to the end of the season.

aaaAAAGH! Forgot about that. Bumped down to tier 4. And this means that I probably won't be getting him in any league. :,-(
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Re: how would you rank keeper SP's for next season?

Postby superjags99 » Fri Aug 26, 2011 5:26 pm

Neato Torpedo wrote:My personal tiers, largely copy/pasted from an earlier post.

Tier 1:
1. Halladay
3. Felix
2. Verlander

Tier 2:
7. Lincecum
5. Kershaw
6. Lee

Tier 3:
4. Weaver
8. Sabathia
9. Hamels
10. Strasburg
11. Price
12. Lester
13. Hanson
15. Haren
17. Greinke

Tier 4:
14. Pineda
16. Cain
18. Shields
20. Jimenez
Garza
Bumgarner


Sorry to bump month old thread...just didn't want to make another one as the conversation was already started.

I pretty much agree with the ranking you came up with. Just wanted to see where everyone would place guys like Latos, Kennedy or Gallardo. Or even Wainright for that case?
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Re: how would you rank keeper SP's for next season?

Postby Neato Torpedo » Fri Aug 26, 2011 6:01 pm

Waino in the middle of tier 3 and Gallardo/Latos at the top of tier 4. Kennedy's been good this year but he doesn't have the upside of the other guys I listed. I'd draft him as a back-end SP3 but his W total might inflate his value in the draft pool.
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