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Re: how would you rank keeper SP's for next season?

Postby wrveres » Tue Jul 19, 2011 1:21 am

how is Struasberg at 10?
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Re: how would you rank keeper SP's for next season?

Postby bigh0rt » Tue Jul 19, 2011 1:37 am

wrveres wrote:how is Struasberg at 10?

This was the name I threw out on Page 1 as being severely out of place.
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Re: how would you rank keeper SP's for next season?

Postby wrveres » Tue Jul 19, 2011 1:45 am

bigh0rt wrote:
wrveres wrote:how is Strasberg at 10?
This was the name I threw out on Page 1 as being severely out of place.
Ill be shocked if he is the 10th pitcher off the board next year. I know i wont be paying premium for a SP coming off TJ.
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Re: how would you rank keeper SP's for next season?

Postby bayside » Tue Jul 19, 2011 2:16 am

wrveres wrote:
bigh0rt wrote:
wrveres wrote:how is Strasberg at 10?
This was the name I threw out on Page 1 as being severely out of place.
Ill be shocked if he is the 10th pitcher off the board next year. I know i wont be paying premium for a SP coming off TJ.

i agree on that part.
but i definitely WONT be shocked if he turns out to perform as a top 10 SP next year when all is said and done.
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Re: how would you rank keeper SP's for next season?

Postby kickureface » Tue Jul 19, 2011 5:11 am

the only thing that makes me WANT to hold on to lincecum is the brand name ...
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Re: how would you rank keeper SP's for next season?

Postby jackie hayes » Tue Jul 19, 2011 6:44 am

bayside wrote:
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Why does everyone have Weaver so high? The k rate is still meh, the homers are ridiculously low for a fly ball pitcher.

His k/9 is 7.5, which isnt spectacular but still very good considering he throws a lot of innings per start.
(last yr it was 9.5/9 which is among the very best in the game)

Also his peripherals are elite. FIP was 3.01 lat yr and 2.43 this season - so he's not getting abnormally lucky.
He only walks 2 batters per 9.
His K/BB rate is near 4.
His results speak for themselves.

now i wouldnt take him in the top 5, but definitely in the top 10


He certainly has been lucky in home runs -- given his career, one would expect almost three times as many as he has. His control is certainly good. But I'm not buying him above Lincecum, for example, who's pushing 10 k/9 and has been better in preventing home runs over his career.

This thread has me thinking about doing some Lincecum shopping later today.
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Re: how would you rank keeper SP's for next season?

Postby Inukchuk » Tue Jul 19, 2011 8:30 am

kickureface wrote:the only thing that makes me WANT to hold on to lincecum is the brand name ...


I think it's a little too soon to be claiming this. His K% is still elite (better than Verlander and Weaver right now), and he has the best xFIP among himself, Weaver, and Verlander. Given his track record, I'd be perfectly fine keeping him.
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Re: how would you rank keeper SP's for next season?

Postby markj11 » Tue Jul 19, 2011 10:02 am

bayside wrote:
wrveres wrote:
bigh0rt wrote:This was the name I threw out on Page 1 as being severely out of place.
Ill be shocked if he is the 10th pitcher off the board next year. I know i wont be paying premium for a SP coming off TJ.

i agree on that part.
but i definitely WONT be shocked if he turns out to perform as a top 10 SP next year when all is said and done.


He's on schedule to be back in September so we'll get to see him before deciding where he'll go next year. In my keep 5 league with 3 dl spots, I drafted him as my last pick. That league uses k/bb and k/9 with along with the other sp cats. 5.41K/BB and 12.18K/9 in his first 90 innings, it might be a risk I have to take.
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Re: how would you rank keeper SP's for next season?

Postby DbacksRback » Tue Jul 19, 2011 10:06 am

markj11 wrote:
bayside wrote:
wrveres wrote:Ill be shocked if he is the 10th pitcher off the board next year. I know i wont be paying premium for a SP coming off TJ.

i agree on that part.
but i definitely WONT be shocked if he turns out to perform as a top 10 SP next year when all is said and done.


He's on schedule to be back in September so we'll get to see him before deciding where he'll go next year. In my keep 5 league with 3 dl spots, I drafted him as my last pick. That league uses k/bb and k/9 with along with the other sp cats. 5.41K/BB and 12.18K/9 in his first 90 innings, it might be a risk I have to take.


Reason I dont see him top 10 is he will have an innings limit. Jordan Zimmerman had one of 160 innings this year even with pitching from the end of august to the end of the season.
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Re: how would you rank keeper SP's for next season?

Postby MaudDib » Tue Jul 19, 2011 12:05 pm

Kind of surprised at how high Pineda is being ranked. I know he has been very good this year but there has to be some worry that he won't sustain this high level next year. He looks awfully like Latos did last year. Some of it will be how many innings he actually ends up with but I don't think I would be willing to take a guy with only one year of experience as my #2 SP.

With so many good SP right now, I would be less willing to take a risk early on.
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