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Postby pjalst » Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:23 pm

I'm in a 12 team H2H Yahoo keeper league(we keep 10). My team is currently in 6th place. 6 teams make the playoffs.

I send: Votto and J Upton
1 get: Pujols, Youkillis, Strasburg and a Hi round draft pick.

I would like to know your thoughts?


C Chris Iannetta
1B Joey Votto
2B Jemile Weeks
3B Ryan Zimmerman
SS José Reyes
LF Nelson Cruz
CF Curtis Granderson
RF Justin Upton
Util Chris Young
BN Jorge Posada
BN Alex Gordon
BN Adam Dunn
BN Brett Lawrie
BN Daniel Murphy
DL Delmon Young


SP Max Scherzer
SP Yovani Gallardo
SP Bartolo Colón
RP Brandon League
RP Matt Thornton
RP Sean Marshall
P Huston Street
P Josh Beckett
P Chris Resop
BN Jonathon Niese
DL Erik Bedard
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Re: Pujols/Votto trade, help me decide...WHiR

Postby MadDog36 » Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:44 pm

Who would be your RF after the deal Young?
Youk brings a nice upgrade to 3b or UTL for you.
Pujols and Votto kinda push. Though Votto is younger and more years of top shelf production are expected.

Your only keeper pitcher iMO is gallardo. So I can see the wanting to get Strasburg.

You have offensive keepers

1b-Votto
3b-Zimmerman
SS-Reyes
LF-Cruz
CF-Grand
RF-Upton
UTL-Young
BN Lawrie
SP Yovani Gallardo
RP Huston Street
would probably be your 10 now right.

If you did the deal it would look like:

1b-Pujols
3b-Zimmerman
SS-Reyes
LF-Cruz
CF-Grand
RF-Young
UTL-Youk
BN Lawrie or Gordon
SP Yovani Gallardo
RP Huston Street or Eric Bedard
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Re: Pujols/Votto trade, help me decide...WHiR

Postby dnielsen2342648 » Sat Jul 09, 2011 2:03 pm

I think it's a pretty even trade, with you coming out slightly on top. If it were me I'd go ahead and take the deal. As noted above, you lose a few years of top-level production from Votto to Pujols, but you could really use Strasburg on your staff.

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Re: Pujols/Votto trade, help me decide...WHiR

Postby pjalst » Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:16 am

MadDog36 wrote:Who would be your RF after the deal Young?
Youk brings a nice upgrade to 3b or UTL for you.
Pujols and Votto kinda push. Though Votto is younger and more years of top shelf production are expected.

Your only keeper pitcher iMO is gallardo. So I can see the wanting to get Strasburg.

You have offensive keepers

1b-Votto
3b-Zimmerman
SS-Reyes
LF-Cruz
CF-Grand
RF-Upton
UTL-Young
BN Lawrie
SP Yovani Gallardo
RP Huston Street
would probably be your 10 now right.

If you did the deal it would look like:

1b-Pujols
3b-Zimmerman
SS-Reyes
LF-Cruz
CF-Grand
RF-Young
UTL-Youk
BN Lawrie or Gordon
SP Yovani Gallardo
RP Huston Street or Eric Bedard


I think Cruz is Rf eligible at least he was at the bgining of 2011.

You left out Strasburg as a keeper if the deal is made. My team would look like:

1b-Pujols
3b-Zimmerman
SS-Reyes
LF/RF-Cruz
CF-Grand
CF-Young
1B/3B Youk
BN Lawrie or Gordon( most likely Lawrie)
SP Yovani Gallardo
SP Strasburg
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Re: Pujols/Votto trade, help me decide...WHiR

Postby ltrocq » Sun Jul 10, 2011 12:22 am

I don't think your staff is good enough to compete this year unless you were to get really lucky come playoff time.

I think the deal sets you up better for the future. I'd do it
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Re: Pujols/Votto trade, help me decide...WHiR

Postby whitheadsuxs » Sun Jul 10, 2011 1:37 am

if you could send chris young or alex gordon then this would be amazing and keep justin upton hes got 8 -9 years of top level production in him if he stays healthy keeping ten its like a dynasty basically so forget you getting a high pick each guy keeps 10 the top 120 are kept then theres a draft so theres not much talent left when you guys redraft



id stay with what you have votto really impressed me winning an mvp and hasnt slumped at all this year knowing the pitchers were gonna make adjustments and watch tons of film on him now thats hes a supreme superstar in the mlb and hed have a tough adjustment period nope powers down a little but whos perfect
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Re: Pujols/Votto trade, help me decide...WHiR

Postby pjalst » Sun Jul 10, 2011 1:27 pm

ltrocq wrote:I don't think your staff is good enough to compete this year unless you were to get really lucky come playoff time.

I think the deal sets you up better for the future. I'd do it



By no means do I think I can "win it all" with the staff I have. I do think I can make the playoffs(6 teams) though. Anything can happen there.
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Re: Pujols/Votto trade, help me decide...WHiR

Postby ahcryky » Sun Jul 10, 2011 2:55 pm

I don't like it. I like Votto with his age better in a keeper if there are no limits in years over Pujols. Strasburg is a HUGE if. I don't think I'm going to trade two young bats on an if. Youklis is great when healthy, but no way an upgrade over Upton.
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Re: Pujols/Votto trade, help me decide...WHiR

Postby pjalst » Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:57 pm

Thanks for all the input guys, I think I'm going to stick with Votto/Upton.
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