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Offered Halladay and Gordon for Bautista WHIR!

Postby tommo » Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:12 pm

12 Team H2H Points League. I was offered Halladay and Alex Gordon for Bautista. I can play Seth Smith or Gordon in the OF until Prado returns from the DL. What do you guys think of this deal? Another deal that was on the table was Votto for Lee. Thanks for the help!

My team:
C Santana, Carlos
1B Votto, Joey
2B Kendrick, Howard
3B Zimmerman, Ryan
SS Ramirez, Hanley
OF Bautista, Jose
OF Gonzalez, Carlos
OF McCutchen, Andrew
U Smith, Seth
Bench (2B) Prado, Martin
Bench (1B) Eric Hosmer

SP Beachy, Brandon
SP Chacin, Jhoulys
SP Garcia, Jaime
SP Norris, Bud
SP Zimmermann, Jordan
RP Axford, John
Bench (SP) Marcum, Shaun
Bench (SP) Stauffer, Tim
Bench (SP) Oswalt, Roy
Bench (SP) Harden, Rich
Bench (RP) Marmol, Carlos

His Team:
C Mauer, Joe
1B Butler, Billy
2B Turner, Justin
3B Ramirez, Aramis
SS Drew, Stephen
OF Gordon, Alex
OF Granderson, Curtis
OF Sizemore, Grady
U Bay, Jason
Bench (C) Molina, Yadier
Bench (U) Dunn, Adam
Bench (U) Lowrie, Jed
Bench (OF) Span, Denard

SP Gallardo, Yovani
SP Halladay, Roy
SP Lee, Cliff
SP Lewis, Colby
SP Scherzer, Max
RP Cordero, Francisco
Bench (SP) Baker, Scott
Bench (SP) Buehrle, Mark
Bench (SP) Hughes, Phil

Scoring System
Batting Categories
1B - Singles 1 point
2B - Doubles 2 points
3B - Triples 3 points
BB - Walks (Batters) 0.5 points
CS - Caught Stealing -1 point
CYC - Hitting for the Cycle 10 points
HP - Hit by Pitch 0.5 points
HR - Home Runs 4 points
KO - Strikeouts (Batter) -0.5 points
R - Runs 1 point
RBI - Runs Batted In 1 point
SB - Stolen Bases 1 point

Pitching Categories
BBI - Walks Issued (Pitchers) -0.5 points
BS - Blown Saves -4 points
CG - Complete Games 3 points
ER - Earned Runs -1 point
HB - Hit Batsmen -0.5 points
INN - Innings 1.5 points
K - Strikeouts (Pitcher) 1 point
L - Losses -7 points
NH - No-Hitters 15 points
PG - Perfect Games 20 points
QS - Quality Starts 2 points
S - Saves 4 points
W - Wins 7 points
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Re: Offered Halladay and Gordon for Bautista WHIR!

Postby ahcryky » Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:22 pm

I like this trade a bit better. You're also getting a quality bat in return also. I would do it.
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Offered Halladay and Gordon for Bautista WHIR!

Postby tommo » Thu Jun 30, 2011 11:31 pm

ahcryky wrote:I like this trade a bit better. You're also getting a quality bat in return also. I would do it.


Yeah you really think Gordon will keep it up?
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Re: Offered Halladay and Gordon for Bautista WHIR!

Postby billycent » Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:44 am

If ur really getting killed in pitching then I guess go ahead and do it, ur offense is strong... but if ur getting by and there is consistently decent options to stream, then I'd really advise u hold onto Bautista. Maybe try and trade a smaller piece or 2 for 1 for a bit lesser SP. Thnx for the help on mine.
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Re: Offered Halladay and Gordon for Bautista WHIR!

Postby cs3 » Fri Jul 01, 2011 12:55 am

Your pitching doesnt look too bad right now.

How many points have Halladay and Bautista each accumulated in your league so far?
Just trying to get a sense of pitcher/hitter values with your settings so i can give you a better answer.

care to help on mine?
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Re: Offered Halladay and Gordon for Bautista WHIR!

Postby High cheese » Fri Jul 01, 2011 1:05 am

I take it the league favors hitting more since your offense is fairly stacked. That being said I feel you always need one ace on your team and who better than Halladay. I am not a huge believer in Gordon but I guess he's a good stop gap solution until Prado is back.
C-Santana
1B-Gonzalez
2B-Uggla
3B-Zimmerman
SS-Reyes
OF-Hamilton/Beltran/McCutchen
Util-Heyward/MCab/Berkman
Bench-Dom Brown/Moustakas/Aybar

SP-Halladay/Sabathia/Beckett/Shields/Hamels/Peavy
RP-Marmol/Paplebon/Valverde/League/Feliz
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Offered Halladay and Gordon for Bautista WHIR!

Postby tommo » Fri Jul 01, 2011 1:11 am

cs3 wrote:Your pitching doesnt look too bad right now.

How many points have Halladay and Bautista each accumulated in your league so far?
Just trying to get a sense of pitcher/hitter values with your settings so i can give you a better answer.

care to help on mine?
viewtopic.php?f=26&t=434331


To date:
Bautista - 298.5
Votto - 256.5
Butler - 193

Halladay - 363
Lee - 317.5
Garcia - 248

Another offer on the table is Votto
and Garcia for Lee and Butler.
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Re: Offered Halladay and Gordon for Bautista WHIR!

Postby cs3 » Fri Jul 01, 2011 1:22 am

Looking at those numbers then i say HELL YES !
take the deal.
Halladay has been worth over 60 pts more (20% !) than Bautista so far, and Bautista has played absolutely out of his mind.
Seeing that Lee is also worth more than Jose, its pretty clear that loading up on as much elite pitching as possible is the way to go.
Getting Gordon in the deal just makes it that much better for you.


edit-
Wow Jaime Garcia =Joey Votto???
if you dont have any pitching inning limits i would try to trade all my bats for top tier pitching
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Offered Halladay and Gordon for Bautista WHIR!

Postby tommo » Fri Jul 01, 2011 7:24 am

cs3 wrote:Looking at those numbers then i say HELL YES !
take the deal.
Halladay has been worth over 60 pts more (20% !) than Bautista so far, and Bautista has played absolutely out of his mind.
Seeing that Lee is also worth more than Jose, its pretty clear that loading up on as much elite pitching as possible is the way to go.
Getting Gordon in the deal just makes it that much better for you.


edit-
Wow Jaime Garcia =Joey Votto???
if you dont have any pitching inning limits i would try to trade all my bats for top tier pitching


Thanks for the advice. Probably going to go with the deal for Halladay. I think he may want me to throw in someone else so he doesn't have to pick anyone up from the wire.
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Re: Offered Halladay and Gordon for Bautista WHIR!

Postby rjforlife » Fri Jul 01, 2011 9:59 am

I like the deal. Gordon is no monster but he is very serviceable. Halladay for Bautista straight up is about fair, tacking on Gordon is nice. Just add in whomever you would drop, it won't hurt you.



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