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Which set of Keepers is stronger?

Postby cs3 » Thu Jun 30, 2011 6:25 pm

Trying to decide which set of keepers will make for the strongest foundation. this a H2H league, currently in 1st place.
Keepers are used as the draft pick in next years draft, for the same round they were drafted in this season. the round increases every yr after by 2, then 4, then 6 rounds.

I may keep 5 guys from the first 10 rounds, and up to 8 players in total.
Only 1 player may be kept per round.
Some things to consider:

1) Next year I will have the 1st or 2nd pick in round 2, so if i dont keep a 2nd rounder i will be almost guaranteed a chance to redraft Timmy or Holliday (i doubt any team drops their 1st round pick)
2) FA pickups who went undrafted can be kept in any round i want (Hosmer, Pineda, Beachy)
3) im mainly concerned with what to do with Starlin, Pineda, Beachy, and Hosmer becasue if i keep all 4 it will hurt the overall strength of my team.

so which option do you like best, or if you want just tell me which 5 you would keep from rounds 1-10, and which 3 you'd keep from rounds 11-24?

(potential keepers are in red)

Option A: Offense
Mcab, Bautista, JUp, Youk, Ellsy
Granderson, Strasburg, Pineda

1. Miguel Cabrera (Det - 1B)
2. Matt Holliday (StL - OF), Tim Lincecum
3. open
4. Jon Lester (Bos - SP)
5. José Bautista (Tor - 3B,OF)
6. Justin Upton (Ari - OF)
6. *(extra pick acquired via trade)
7. Kevin Youkilis (Bos - 1B,3B)
8. Mat Latos (SD - SP)
9. Jacoby Ellsbury (Bos - OF)
9. *(extra pick acquired via trade)
10. Carlos Santana (Cle - C,1B)
10. *(extra pick acquired via trade)
11. Max Scherzer (Det - SP)
12. Daniel Hudson (Ari - SP)
12. Curtis Granderson (via trade)
13. Huston Street (Col - RP)
14. --
15. open
16. Brandon Morrow (Tor - SP)
17. open
18. Starlin Castro (ChC - SS)
19. --
20. Stephen Strasburg (Was - SP)
21. --
22. Craig Kimbrel (Atl - RP), Eric Hosmer
23. --
24. Michael Pineda, Brandon Beachy,


Option B: youth
Mcab, Bautista, JUp, Ells
Starlin, Stras, Hosmer, Pineda

1. Miguel Cabrera (Det - 1B)
2. Matt Holliday (StL - OF),Tim Lincecum
3. open
4. Jon Lester (Bos - SP)
5. José Bautista (Tor - 3B,OF)
6. Justin Upton (Ari - OF)
6. *(extra pick acquired via trade)
7. Kevin Youkilis (Bos - 1B,3B)
8. Mat Latos (SD - SP)
9. Jacoby Ellsbury (Bos - OF)
9. *(extra pick acquired via trade)
10. Carlos Santana (Cle - C,1B)
10. *(extra pick acquired via trade)
11. Max Scherzer (Det - SP)
12. Daniel Hudson (Ari - SP)
12. Curtis Granderson (via trade)
13. Huston Street (Col - RP)
14. --
15. open
16. Brandon Morrow (Tor - SP)
17. open
18. Starlin Castro (ChC - SS)
19. --
20. Stephen Strasburg (Was - SP)
21. --
22. Craig Kimbrel (Atl - RP), Eric Hosmer
23. --
24. Michael Pineda


Option C
Mcab, Bautista, Jup, Ells,
Granderson, Castro, Stras, Pineda

1. Miguel Cabrera (Det - 1B)
2. Matt Holliday (StL - OF), Tim Lincecum
3. open
4. Jon Lester (Bos - SP)
5. José Bautista (Tor - 3B,OF)
6. Justin Upton (Ari - OF)
6. *(extra pick acquired via trade)
7. Kevin Youkilis (Bos - 1B,3B)
8. Mat Latos (SD - SP)
9. Jacoby Ellsbury (Bos - OF)
9. *(extra pick acquired via trade)
10. Carlos Santana (Cle - C,1B)
10. *(extra pick acquired via trade)
11. Max Scherzer (Det - SP)
12. Daniel Hudson (Ari - SP)
12. Curtis Granderson (via trade)
13. Huston Street (Col - RP)
14. --
15. open
16. Brandon Morrow (Tor - SP)
17. open
18. Starlin Castro (ChC - SS)
19. --
20. Stephen Strasburg (Was - SP)
21. --
22. Craig Kimbrel (Atl - RP), Eric Hosmer
23. --
24. Michael Pineda, Brandon Beachy,

Option D:
Mcab, Lincecum, Bautista, Jup, Ells,
Stras, Castro, Pineda


1. Miguel Cabrera (Det - 1B)
2. Matt Holliday (StL - OF), Tim Lincecum
3. open
4. Jon Lester (Bos - SP)
5. José Bautista (Tor - 3B,OF)
6. Justin Upton (Ari - OF)
6. *(extra pick acquired via trade)
7. Kevin Youkilis (Bos - 1B,3B)
8. Mat Latos (SD - SP)
9. Jacoby Ellsbury (Bos - OF)
9. *(extra pick acquired via trade)
10. Carlos Santana (Cle - C,1B)
10. *(extra pick acquired via trade)
11. Max Scherzer (Det - SP)
12. Daniel Hudson (Ari - SP)
12. Curtis Granderson (via trade)
13. Huston Street (Col - RP)
14. --
15. open
16. Brandon Morrow (Tor - SP)
17. open
18. Starlin Castro (ChC - SS)
19. --
20. Stephen Strasburg (Was - SP)
21. --
22. Craig Kimbrel (Atl - RP), Eric Hosmer
23. --
24. Michael Pineda, Brandon Beachy,
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Re: Which set of Keepers is stronger?

Postby cs3 » Thu Jun 30, 2011 6:33 pm

Basically i need to pick 5 from:
MCab
Holliday/Timmy
Bautista
Youk
Justin Upton
Ellsbury

and 3 from:
Granderson
Starlin
Strasburg
Pineda
Hosmer
Beachy
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Re: Which set of Keepers is stronger?

Postby DattKemp27 » Thu Jun 30, 2011 6:40 pm

from what you listed
Miggy
Lincecum
J-Ups
Holliday
Add Carlos Santana

and the other three
Starlin
Strasburg
Pineda
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Re: Which set of Keepers is stronger?

Postby cs3 » Thu Jun 30, 2011 6:53 pm

you would keep Santana over both Youk and Ellsbury?
I thought those 2 guys would be sure fire picks in in the top 3 rounds next year, much higher than i can keep them.
i figured i could redraft Santana (ya it'll have to be before the 10th) since ill have picks in the 3rd, 4th, 6th, 8th, and 9th rounds while most teams wont have that many early picks.

im just not sure if a catchers playing time limitiations justify spending a keeper pick on, esp when it comes at the expense of an elite everyday player
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Re: Which set of Keepers is stronger?

Postby ATLbraves » Thu Jun 30, 2011 6:56 pm

from first five you listed:
Miggy
Lincecum
J. Upton
Holliday
Bautista

the other three:
Starlin
Strasburg
Pineda/Beachy



Very hard decision between Beachy and Pineda. You cant really go wrong with either IMO, its just that Beachy pitches for a better team.




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Re: Which set of Keepers is stronger?

Postby DattKemp27 » Thu Jun 30, 2011 6:59 pm

Good luck trying to redraft Santana if he has a good second half, he has huge potential and once he brings up his average he is going to be a huge commodity in a rather shallow position. Ellsbury has no where to go but down from the point he is at, and i think Santanas Potential outways that of a soon to be 33 Year old Youk.
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Re: Which set of Keepers is stronger?

Postby cs3 » Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:05 pm

ATLbraves wrote:from first five you listed:
Miggy
Lincecum
J. Upton
Holliday
Bautista

the other three:
Starlin
Strasburg
Pineda/Beachy

unfortunately i can only keep 1 of them, as both are 2nd rounders (league rule - only 1 player per round, UNLESSS you acquire an extra pick that round via trade. i only have a single 2nd round pick)
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Re: Which set of Keepers is stronger?

Postby cs3 » Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:07 pm

DattKemp27 wrote:Good luck trying to redraft Santana if he has a good second half, he has huge potential and once he brings up his average he is going to be a huge commodity in a rather shallow position. Ellsbury has no where to go but down from the point he is at, and i think Santanas Potential outways that of a soon to be 33 Year old Youk.

what round do you think Santana is going to go in?
im going to have more picks in the first 12 rounds than anyone else in the league, and in all likelihood more picks in the top 6 rounds than anyone else.
if somebody wants to spend a 2nd or 3rd round pick on a catcher they can have him as far as im concerned.

what makes you think that Ellbury isnt playing up to his talent level? last year before his injury he was expected to do exactly what hes on pace for now... hit .285+, score 100+ runs, steal 50+ bases, ~70 rbi. the only stat that i expect him to regress in is HR. hes prob more of a 12-15HR/yr guy than a 20+ HR player.
everything else seems perfectly sustainable to me.

i see your point with Youk. he may very well be in decline. It was only his 7th round status that had me interested in keeping him
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Re: Which set of Keepers is stronger?

Postby cs3 » Thu Jun 30, 2011 7:15 pm

also i think cutting Bautista might be ridiculously bad :-?
just noticed that.

assuming he stays healthy this year, he is a no doubt 1st round talent next year
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Which set of Keepers is stronger?

Postby tommo » Fri Jul 01, 2011 1:21 am

Thanks for the help on mine. I just provided the players YTD points in my thread. I'd keep:

Miggy
Lincy
Bautista
Upton
Elsbury

Starlin
Strasburg
Pineda
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