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Postby quickfingerz » Wed Mar 31, 2004 3:34 am

Anyone consider that it might be possible for him to go:

5 Wins / 40 saves / 3.30 ERA / 1.20 WHIP / 1.0 K per IP
The key to Fantasy Sports is NOT about Sports but rather the "manipulation of numbers" in your favor

MASTER THOSE NUMBERS
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Postby DieHardCubbie » Wed Mar 31, 2004 3:36 am

quickfingerz wrote:Anyone consider that it might be possible for him to go:

5 Wins / 40 saves / 3.30 ERA / 1.20 WHIP / 1.0 K per IP


I dreamed about it...then I woke up...and run and checked all of my teams and made sure he wasn't on one of them..... :-)
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Postby Brendo » Wed Mar 31, 2004 7:38 am

quickfingerz wrote:Anyone consider that it might be possible for him to go:

5 Wins / 40 saves / 3.30 ERA / 1.20 WHIP / 1.0 K per IP



or 5 Wins/ 18 Saves/ 5.60 ERA/ 2.10 WHIP
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Postby RedsRebirth » Wed Mar 31, 2004 10:25 am

Mesa did in fact "explode" a few years back with the Phillies, had two great years actually, 42 and 45 saves, much to the surprise of some owners. However, last year he was horrid. I just dont know how he can finish camp with no competition?
I mean, Acevedo and Corey were both sent down. I guess it is the Pirates, but cmon!
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Postby Mookie4ever » Wed Mar 31, 2004 10:46 am

The Jury wrote:Implode typically gives the sense of a player screwing up big time, while explode can be seen as a positive stretch of huge stats usually for a hitter. :-?

Heh that was kind of stupid blurb, but I tried to answer a stupid question that was posted :-D


Hey hey! I resemble that remark!

It was a tongue in cheek comment ;-) (no, not him) ;-7 (yeah that's the one) but the question stands. I understand that implode (to collapse inward violently) would be a bad thing for a pitcher. But why is explode (to burst violently as a result of internal pressure) a good thing?

Maybe the answer is an individual thing. Mesa may implode but Clemens would certainly explode. Is that the difference? ;-7 (notice emoticon!)
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Postby Mordraken » Wed Mar 31, 2004 10:51 am

Totally right. I'm a reluctant Mesa owner (will drop him for a set-up guy or someone who takes over for an injury if I can) but looking at his past 3 years, there's a chance he could perform really well. Have a look:

2001: 2.34 ERA, 1.23 WHIP, 0.85 K/IP, 2.95 K/BB, 3-3, 42 saves
2002: 2.97 ERA, 1.37 WHIP, 0.85 K/IP, 1.64 K/BB, 4-6, 45 saves
2003: 6.52 ERA, 1.76 WHIP, 0.78 K/IP, 1.45 K/BB, 5-7, 24 saves

So numbers like a 3.50 ERA, 1.50 WHIP, .8 K/IP and 30 saves are not unrealistic. The WHIP trend and the K/BB trend is something to be concerned about, but if he can rebound, there is an upside of 40 saves with a decent ERA.

He's worth the risk, but nobody to bank on.
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Postby tyrusray367 » Wed Mar 31, 2004 1:54 pm

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=a ... &type=lgns

Without Beimel and Guthrie, their only two experienced left-handed relievers, the Pirates will go into the season with rookie John Grabow (0-0, 5.14 ERA in seven innings this spring) and either rookie Mike Johnston or Oliver Perez in the bullpen. Johnston has never pitched above Double-A but has impressed the Pirates with his velocity and a sharp-breaking slider.


Johnston's closed in the minors and the Pirates have not been shy about promoting guys from AA. Might make a good reserve round pickup
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Postby Brendo » Wed Mar 31, 2004 2:14 pm

doesn't oliver perez make sense as a closer????

looks gagne-esque

great stuff, lousy control and tons of K's.......
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Postby RedsRebirth » Wed Mar 31, 2004 2:19 pm

Brendo wrote:doesn't oliver perez make sense as a closer????

looks gagne-esque

great stuff, lousy control and tons of K's.......


Hmm, good thought...
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Postby Brendo » Wed Mar 31, 2004 2:23 pm

probably makes too much sense

for the pirates anyway
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